THE CALIPHATE FROM THE ABYSS; WHAT IS A CALIPHATE?

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The perverse mechanisms used by Jabhat Al-Nusra and the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to establish a mysterious institution on earth might have some of you wondering what a “Caliphate” is.  Syrian Perspective will attempt to explain the history and meaning of the word “Caliph” and the amorphous entity called a “Caliphate”.

The word “Caliph” is a Western corruption of the Arabic word “Khaleefa”.  Khaleefa derives from the tri-literal root: khala-fa, (خلف) which means, generally, to come after, succeed, follow.  Thus, a khaleefa in its first ordinary sense means something that comes after something else – to be its successor.

Abu Bakr Al-Siddeeq, one of the first Meccans to convert to the religion of Islam, and who was the father of ‘Aa`isha, Muhammad’s wife after the death of Khadeeja (Muhammad’s entrepreneurial Christian wife), announced the death of the Messenger late in the year 632 A.D.  Abu Bakr’s words are immortalized in a thousands texts:

“Oh men, if you worship Muhammad, Muhammad is dead, but, if you worship Allah, He is alive”.

When the Messenger passed away, as he must because, as he said so many times, that he was an ordinary mortal, the nascent Islamic community was left without its charismatic leader who had led it from certain annihilation at the hands of both the Meccan pagan aristocracy and the Jewish tribes of Medina to acceptance and certain proliferation.  He was the fountainhead of the new Abrahamic religion that, unfortunately, possessed no known internal mechanism for succession.  During the period immediately after his death, many Muslims backtracked and tried to revivify their old polytheistic ways, a condition that led to the Wars of Apostasy (Huroob Al-Ridda) which Islam eventually won. 

You can read a column of books from every denomination of Islam and you’ll see that the process of selecting a successor is clouded in a myriad nuances and fables.  What is clear from all the versions is that the Messenger, Muhammad Abu-Al-Qaassem, was aware of the problem on his death bed and did something to indicate whom he believed should be his “Khaleefa” or successor.  The historians all agree that Abu Bakr was the first Caliph of Islam, the First Rightly-Guided Caliph.

As a successor to the Messenger (Rasool), the Caliph could never claim to have the same relationship to Allah.  While Allah may have sent down revelations to Muhammad through an Archangel, he would not do the same with a successor.  The Qur’aan was closed and finished.  What any Caliph would now be entrusted with was the growth of the Muslim Community (the “Umma”), the dissemination of the new message of Islam, the imposition of Islamic ways, protection of the Islamic holy places, defeat of polytheists and pagans and administration of the burgeoning empire.

When Abu Bakr died, another nebulous series of events took place which resulted in the selection of ‘Umar Ibn Al-Khattaab (634-644) as the Second Rightly Guided Caliph of Islam.  He was followed by ‘Uthmaan Ibn ‘Affaan (644-656 A.D)as the Third Caliph.  It is here, at the threshold of the Fourth Caliphate that the schism between Shi’is and Sunnis began.  While this subject is of signal importance to events occurring today in the Near East, it would not be germane to the discussion we are having about how ISIS and Nusra view this institution and why they keep calling for its re-establishment.  It is sufficient to tell the reader that it is here, at this juncture in time, when ‘Ali Ibn Abi Taaleb, asserted his claim to the Caliphate in the face of the usurping Mu’aawiya Ibn Abi Sufyaan of the Ummayyad tribe in Mecca, but who ruled as governor in Damascus.

Mu’aawiya (661-680) ruled the Islamic Empire under some severe handicaps, one of which was his legitimacy.  But, despite the on-going conflict to establish his dynasty and the tenacious protestations of those who would come to be known as “Shi’atu ‘Ali” (‘Ali’s Partisans, hence, Shi’ites), the Ummayyads ruled as Caliphs in Damascus until their cousins the ‘Abbaasids overthrew them and erased any remnant of their graves from the face of the earth.  The Abbaasids ruled (most of the time) in a little town on the Tigris River called “Baghdaad”, Persian for “Given by God”.  It was later changed by the Caliph Al-Ja’far Al-Mansoor to “Daar Al-Salaam”, the Abode of Peace, because according to the illustrious historian, Al-Tabari, he spent a night of complete bliss there at the village on the Tigris right next to an old church.  The name, Baghdaad, stuck, however, as you probably all know.

The Caliphs in Baghdad centralized the power of the Islamic empire and, thus, were more akin to emperors with powers derived from their succession to Muhammad the Messenger.  As such they were blood relatives of the Messenger and competent to issue rules and statutes based on the “Sunna” of the Messenger, id est “the habitual behavior of the Messenger” as it came down in a baffling array of versions for which an entire science of determining their reliability was created as part of the jurisprudential life of the Islamic World.  The Caliphs also established religious authorities (qaadhis), judges, to further give the growing body of law (Sharee’ah) meaning and substance.

The Caliphate was destroyed by Hulegu, Genghiz Khaan’s grandson – a notorious mass murderer and nihilist.  The Caliph Al-Musta’sim Bi-llaah was wrapped in a carpet (1260), his body ground into mincemeat under the hoofs of Mongol cavalry inside the walls of Baghdad which was destined to be put to flames and over a quarter million inhabitants slaughtered in a scene that was transported to the Mameluke giant, The Vanquisher King, Rukneddeen Baybars Al-Bunduqdaari, who would later pay the Mongol army back by devastating it at the battle of ‘Ayn Jaaloot in Syria and would follow that up by sweeping the fence-sitting Crusader rats out of coastal Syria once and for all leaving only their blue eyes and blondish hair, their DNA so to speak, in the faces and eyes of millions of Syrians.

Hulagu's army conducting a siege on Baghdad walls. Tapestry circa 1430.

When the Caliphate in Baghdad ended, it would not be revitalized until one of the most absurd events in human history, the creation of the Ottoman Empire.  Historically, Caliphs had to be related to the bloodlines of the Messenger, Muhammad.  So, how could Turcomans claim a lineage to the Arabs of Mecca?  Well, Saleem I (1512-1520), the Ottoman Sultan who would wrest Syria away from its Mameluke rulers and later conquered Egypt (1517-1518), first used the title Caliph with the argument that because he brought from Egypt the body of Al-Musata’sim, the last Abbaasid Caliph, the dead Caliph spoke to him and renewed in him the Caliphate.  If any of you want to know why Erdoghan is insane, you might want to consider this story as told by Ahmet Cevdet Pasha.  You haven’t lived, by the way, until you have studied how successive Ottoman Sultans tried to establish their geneology in Arabia through fatwas issued by their own “qaadhi”, the obnoxious “Shaykhulislam”.

So, what do ISIS and Nusra want with this Caliphate?  Why is it necessary to recreate (hmm) an order built around a defunct institution whose last Arab occupant was brutally converted into canned hash under the hooves of Mongol steeds?

The word “recreate” might give away the reason.  It is clear to this author that the murdering hordes who have invaded Syria and Iraq are daydreaming malignant narcissists who hide inside a cloak of false piety while exhorting their followers to help in re-establishing the glorious Golden Age of Islam.  There is also the facet of divinity; after all, to the murdering hordes of terrorists, the Caliph could be viewed as “Alllah’s vicar on earth” – a position that would grant to the Caliph power not less than that enjoyed by the greatest of the Caliphs, Haroon Al-Rasheed, for one, or Al-Ma’moon, or even the unlikely “Sulaymaan the Magnificent”.

So there you have it.  An army of fantasts, beheading innocent people, crucifying some, burning others alive in bakery ovens, marrying Tunisian prostitutes in a Sex Jihad that would have the Messenger of Allah rolling in his grave or SyrPer readers, laughing their heads off.  The need to establish a Caliphate on earth has terrified most Muslims who view the institution as something of the past that only reminds us of how backward the Arab World really is. ZAF

 


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Canthama
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Ziad, thanks for the historic context and a great summary. No matter what, these terrorist rats are barely human, how dare them to claim following God’s message ? Thugs and criminals they are.

Paul S.
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Nice post Ziad. I’m not sure I agree on the genetic legacy of the Crusaders on Syrians today, I believe the blondism seen in some Syrians is native to the middle east. Before the Turks migrated to Asia Minor, Turkey was largely hellenized. In fact even before that the Anatolian peninsula was inhabited by Hittites, an Indo-European speaking people. Also, the West should wise up when they support people who want to establish the caliphate. When you look at the maps the jihadists post they usually include the Iberian peninsula and the Balkans as part of a revived Caliphate. Be… Read more »
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Scintillating. Absolutely Scintillating. This is a(nother) prime example why Syr Per should be REQUIRED READING for everyone. The irony probably isn’t lost on most that the concept of the “caliphate” serves as a boogeyman for the Western masses, many of whom assume that every muslim lives for the establishment, or as you say recreation of, whereas the truth is much different as you point out.

The powers that be Sowing discord through these fairy tales. Disgustingly this band of misguided savages wouldn’t even exist were it not for western intelligence and the bronze age peddlers of poisoned docrtine

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Nini
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Ziad I do not agree with one .

That the Shia / sunni rift started when ALi became the 4 Caliphate , I always though it started after prophets death.

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Regarding making Abu Baker the first Caliphate after the prophet die. I always believe that the prophet want Ali to lead after him but it was a struggle games and we know who took over. The guy with the bigger gun!

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Why was this post removed? ——————————————————— Putin is a good man. The media distorts. Of course he is ex KGB and I think the analysis of the Snowden interview points out that every country has it’s intelligence machine and things like that. But if it’s Russian Orthodox I want it, as It could and already has prevented a US first strike. If it is the Vatican’s CIA, well it’s beyond a Joke. They have so much data and couldn’t prevent 911. Check this out. http://richardtomlinsonandtherussians.blogspot.com.au/ 2. 1980: Russian Monastery Compound, Ein Kerem, Jerusalem. Vladimir Putin and the other KGB Royal… Read more »
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you certainly don’t lack a sense of self worth. The whole mk ultra freemason thing is interesting, but to re use a term from the post, not particularly germane and or just down a rabbit hole or 2 too many.

Arklight
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At the end of a rabbit hole is a bolt hole, Dudley. There are geopolitical/religious historians, and have been for centuries, who maintain that what’s going on today (whenever ‘today’ is, at any particular point in history) has been in the works since the Serpent swindled Eve – – and, thus, from far before that to the time that Lucifer got the boot. I’m not a scholar, guy, just a nuts-‘n’-bolts kinda dude so, when a bolt comes along that matches a nut from another baby food jar, I tend to think that the two go together. then a piece… Read more »
dudleydoright911
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My point is merely that this site exists to chronicle the treachery that is happening in syria. Using his post as an example, the roots of the sunni shia rift are a worthwhile discussion, but outside the purview of this post. Sure the shadowy actions of a generational theistic satanic cabal of leaders manifesting their imperial will may be at work here, but generally that is a bridge or 6 too far for this site. Believe me when I say that I would expect that I and probably you would be in the top tier of people who could sit… Read more »
Arklight
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Okay, Dudley, I see your point. Still, an interesting post to sort through.

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I don’t have too many reasons to lack self esteem. My IP has been blocked here so I trialled an IP tunnel. But I wouldn’t pay to post here. I may build one later. I have complete web skills. I built the server. The machine, linux, perl. It is here on my right. http://www.aussievitamin.com/ This is what I REALLY do. Database, networking, html. Web Marketing.The shop is Interchange which I have mastered. Search for “a”. 7500 products and I pay and train poor African peasant women to maintain it. And of course I don’t hate religion enough to be unable… Read more »
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The Iraqi Ghost Child follows me everywhere

From the Pawn of Satan George W Bush own mouth, uttering from the depth of his heart; ;(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c0mS5I-j_Gc

Arklight
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B, did you think that it may be in the presentation? I have complete computer skills, too: I push the button, the green light comes on and I surf – – if it doesn’t, I haul the machine out into the desert, use it for target practice, and replace it with one that works.

Horus
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My IP Address has been banned here so I am trialling a tunnel. I would not pay to post here. I do IT, networking, database, linux, perl and Web Marketing. http://www.aussievitamin.com/ That’s what I really do. I train and employ poor African women to add the content and do the marketing. I don’t have many reasons to feel inferior. I sent them $100,000 to buy land. Here is a hymn I wrote recently. http://www.franz-schubert.com/prayer-for-kenya.html I probably won’t come back to this blog. Obviously it is ok to criticise the Caliphate, the western churches are beyond reproach. Personally I give the… Read more »
Arklight
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Horus, huh? Okay, I get that you’re a multi-talented multi-tasker, with a taste for tangy sarcasm. Horus – – Horus – – Oh, Yeah! How’s the missus, Horus?

Horus
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The Missus of Horus is Isis, Queen of Heaven, Stella Maris. I thought we covered that subject?

http://www.franz-schubert.com/prayer-for-kenya.html

http://jessicajewettonline.com/did-isis-become-the-virgin-mary

But oh no, musn’t delve too deeply into the occult. Night hurt someones feelings.

The Empress has no clothes. But let’s hack Judaism and Islam to death all the same. Easy targets those wogs.

Horus
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Well I got it wrong. Osiris is the dad. But please consider this. The word horus associated with sun worship and is definitely part of our daily language. The sun rises on the Horuson. It moves 15 degrees every Hour and late it Seths. Now only the Nobility and the Church could read and write. So what is Christendom REALLY all about?

Osirisis
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Putin knows this.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vladimir-putin-receives-virgin-mary-fertility-relic-as-russia-fights-aborti

And I am sure so does Islam. All those domes and pillars are very symbolic.

However the true Hebrews, not those European ones, cast down their Idols.

http://www.franz-schubert.com/karen-hudes-on-planet-nibiru.html

tee hee

And guess what? The Washington Colonia (Linguistically Koeln where my mum was born, the place that smells nice with another dome, you guessed it) looks just the same!

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Dieudonné, Soral, and the French Resistance – Struggle Between the French People and the Zionist Plutocracy – Media Censorship or Free Speech? – Inserting a Quenelle Into Zionism’s Butt – Anti-Establishment Gesture – A Political Earthquake in France – Equality and Reconciliation
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/state-repression-in-france-only-makes.html

Paix
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Ce n’est pas seulement en France mon ami, où les gens sont inquiets. Pourquoi mettre en place à l’austérité? Il est faux! Nigel Farage prédit et tremblement de terre en Europe.

Dites salut à Clouseau. Je m’ennuie de lui.

Cordialement,

Horus

Arklight
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Great post, B! I have a sneaking feeling that you and William Guy Carr would have made a very, very, VERY good team! Thanks!

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If u ask every ISIS dick head who are the 4 Caliphate they will get an “F”

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An interesting reading….sadly, more & more people are induced to believe it and willing to be dragged back into a primitive age….. Well agreed with Mr. D, it’s a Compulsary Reading for everyone….. Not only Europe & Middle East, but It’s also spreading across Asia…especially Southeast Asia with Malaysia & Indonesia which are among the largest Muslim countries now. Thailand is also seeing some trouble up North near the border with Malaysia, the Thais are the only one who’s actively fighting back this horde……many Thais had become victim & murdered as well…. Indonesia is keeping quiet, I’m not sure if… Read more »
dudleydoright911
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The disgusting part is, wherever radical islam exists, you can bet your sweet ass that Saudi money and influence is there too.

Open a new mosque next door to the old mosque, peddle influence and ostracize and abuse anyone who doesn’t agree with you. Same story the world over.

Frank Reitzenstein
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Yes sure, we agree that churches are political but not always in a good way.

Please remember that Saudi and Thailand are run from Europe.

Both dictators, the way EU likes it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Golden_Fleece

Alan Berger
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This organization does not work. This organization is an honest, historical relics. Nostalgic memories of the European Middle Ages. As well as the organization of Freemasons dead. Masonic oganizace are already at least 200 years by the ‘economic cartels. ” Search the impact of these historical organizations in the current conflict between the two factions of Islam is ridiculous. Conflict between the two factions of Islam has been abused USA. USA fights for resources and retracts into the policy and EU countries and blackmail those countries through NATO. USA: “Europe, if you cancel military cooperation with the USA and NATO… Read more »
Frank Reitzenstein
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No mention of Sarkozy bombing 40,000 Blacks Women and Children in Libya. And then you use the word honest. What’s your programming code? Ask Ziad about Saud, he can do it better than me. Then get off your lazy butt and do Mr Alphabet Thailand and why not the King of Spain who like an increasing number of clergy and nobility abdicate because of criminal scandals. I believe Sarkozy is being hunted by the law as we speak. If the Queen who secretly owns half of Rio Tinto and is into much more than that is honest we will have… Read more »
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Hi, Alan. First off, my hat’s off to the Czech Republic for not permitting any permanent American military presence within its borders. I think I get your drift and, yes it’s true that those ‘historic organizations’ have little, if any, current impact on what’s going on today, but the – – um – – roots of the modern ‘New World Order’ are the product of seeds planted in the compost of previous organizations which were not global in their scope. The universality of those historic organization have given them plenty of room to morph into, and mature as, what we… Read more »
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How can either of you even comment on the status of a secret society which includes several nefarious characters? The real problem is what goes on behind closed doors? I did not pretend that I know, but its called connect the dots and we know the world is a mess. Blaming networks of criminals is a good starting point. It is so obvious that this runs the world. Think of Obama appointing Eric Holder head of Justice and slaps on the wrists for bankers. Even the American people and congress are not fooled. We are all totally justified in coming… Read more »
Frank Reitzenstein
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Not to mention the fact that Prince Charles visited Saudi to dance. The English know what is going on. It includes lucrative defence contracts.

Charles, you do the dancing and I will play the tune.

http://www.franz-schubert.com/nostalgischer-tanz.html

Actually I heard from insiders that Diana was the worst intolerable snob and sadly Charles is the best they could offer. I had of course already worked that out.

Any Royal that is half human is ok by me.

M
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Ziad,
I have created a map, check it out.

http://www.fps-predators.com/#/middle-east-conflict/4585140400

What do you think, so far (I am still busy with it)?

Arklight
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M, Arklight here. I cannot, and do not, speak for Ziad, but offer my opinion. We’ve needed a concise theater map for a long time, and yours looks like ‘The Bee’s Knees’, so far. The only question I have is, ‘will the maps be archived, and easily accessible?’ The other thing is, why do you need my name, which I will not give you? Most sites ask for you moniker and the password you’ll use for that site, and I’m pretty happy with that arrangement. Anyway, keep up the good work!

M
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Oh, sorry about that!
That is actually the gaming website and we needed TRUE name because of the competitions (where everybody uses nicknames/usernames) to confirm the identity of the winner/s and open communication to send him/her their prize.
I will see to change that, thanks!

Arkiight
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I went to sign up again, M; I was asked a second time for my email address, and then for my birth date. Oops. May try again in a couple weeks. I do like your map, with the updates posted at the top. Nice.

M
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It’s normal to ask for somebody’s email when they want to join the website. That is standard procedure used widely and is necessary in case you forget your password. Your date of birth is to prove that you are 18+ which I need to cover me and website host (and also serves to confirm your identity in worse case scenario when you can’t access your email and need to change password on website). ANYWAY, forum is gone now and I have replaced it with comments box (you don’t need to join the website to use it) and live chat (you… Read more »
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Syria: ‘12,000 (NATO MERCENARY) fighters from 81 countries in civil war’ http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/generalnews/2014/06/24/syria-12000-fighters-from-81-countries-in-civil-war_5d5ff73a-b3f7-4fe4-ac40-aa1c5cceb812.html Of these, 3,000 come from Western countries, beginning with France (more than 700), followed by the UK (at least 400), Germany (270) and Belgium (250). The bulk come from the Arab world, with 3,000 Tunisians and 1,500 Moroccans. This makes 2,000 more foreign fighters than joined the fray in Afghanistan in a decade of war. ”Ahrar al-Sham, Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS, all of which were founded by former members of al-Qaeda, attract the most foreign combatants. These three groups are more capable of fielding large numbers of troops,… Read more »
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UPDATE 8-Oil rises above $114 on Iraq fighting and supply concerns http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/24/markets-oil-idUKL6N0P51R020140624 UPDATE 8-Oil rises above $114 on Iraq fighting and supply concerns Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:14pm BST 0 Comments Link this Share this Email Print * Largest Iraq refinery still under siege by Sunni rebels * OPEC sees no oil shortage, would pump more if needed * Libyan oil port shut again after reopening at weekend * U.S. crude inventories expected to decline -Reuters poll NEW YORK, June 24 (Reuters) – Brent crude climbed back towards $115 a barrel on Tuesday on continued fighting in Iraq, supply disruptions… Read more »
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At the time shortly before the Russian Afghanistan Conflict i lived in what was then called an inner city ghetto, with a heavy Asian/west Indian influence, back then their was very little to worry about from the Asians as for the most part they were insular, things started to change in the aftermath of the Afghanistan Russian conflict Those same areas now the threat comes from the Asian Community some areas i wouldn’t even visit these days They are no go areas The Afghan Russian conflict led to Saudi Clerics cash and foot soldiers establishing themselves, moving into Pakistan with… Read more »
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Syrian minister warns of response to Israeli airstrikes

http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2014/6/24/syrian-minister-warns-of-response-to-israeli-air-strikes

A Syrian government minister said that the Syrian military will respond to the Israeli airstrikes against Syrian military targets earlier this week.

Reconciliation Minister Ali Haider told the Nazareth-based Arab-Israeli news service As-Sonora that the “ceasefire [with Israel] is broken,” and that the government has decided to respond to “the Israeli aggression against Syria.” Haider said the matter has been left up to the Syrian military.

The attack against Israel “will have a bigger influence than the Israeli operation and it will come at the appropriate time and place,” Haider said.

[…]

Shin
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Very interesting and informative piece Ziad, thank you.

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ISIS positions in Iraq bombed by unknown planes http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/24/U-S-planes-bombs-ISIS-positions-on-Iraqi-Syria-border.html The positions of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in the northern Iraqi city of al-Qaim were bombed by unknown fighter planes on Tuesday. The White House denied U.S. planes carried out the airstrikes after an Iraqi television station reported that U.S. jets were behind the bombings. Tribal sources told Al Arabiya News that Syrian fighter planes carried out the raids. Meanwhile, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s air force has bombed Baiji – about 200km north of Baghdad, where ISIS fighters seized an oil refinery, according to Al Arabiya’s… Read more »
SharkKing71
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Those unknown fighters are SAAF,Al Qaim is a town that is close to the Iraqi-Syrian Border.

M
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I also think it was Syrian Airforce on exercise mission.

Arklight
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Hey, Shark. Iraq purchased Korean KA1s, but delivery won’t begin until 2015, with ordinance acquisition a possible snag. The Czechs have on hand 8 L-159s for quick delivery, as of 20 June, along with 7 Mi 24 attack helicopters; I’ve no info at this time as to whether any of either aircraft have been delivered or, if so, are operational. The fact that IqAF is, reportedly, engaging ISIS/ISIL with ‘jets’ argues for the L-159s, or some of them, being in the field now. As to ordinance, I don’t know about procurement, since the Czechs have some sort of deal with… Read more »
M
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I have added “Baiji” airstrike on my map. Thanks for the info!

Jason
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Instead of bombing Israel in retaliation for the airstrikes that struck a number of military sites and killed many soldiers, this pathetic regime offers itself to America and Maliki in order to target the Iraqi resistance in the border town of Qaim. Treason is being committed in front of the eyes of Syrians and yet those on here are cheerleading the American led assault on Iraq while turning a blind eye to the to their own soldiers who are being blown apart with impunity by whoever wants to take a shot at Syrian land. LMFAO. Slaves.

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Much as we’d all like to see Israel receive a taste of it’s own medicine, what do you honestly think would happen if Syrian military responded?

Mentat
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Netanyahu would be *so* shocked he would immediately evacuate his bowels and the Golan.

Anonymous
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They sholud alos destroy the oil-factorys in the hands of the ISIL! As long as they are in the hand of the islamists they can use them to get money for more jihadies and more weapons. And the factories will be destroyed by the jihadies when they are forced to leave them in a few months. So do it now, and these fuckers don´t have the chance to sell the oil/petrol.
There´s no way to get the factorys back without damage (the only way would be a massive poisongas attack, but that´s forbidden :()

Jason
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If Syrian planes were involved and it is a big if, then the Syrian government has betrayed everyone by allying itself with the ‘great satan’ in the name of ‘fighting terrorism’. Yet many people on here will undoubtebly cheer on this alliance backed by their Shia sectarian outlook which see’s the conflict in Iraq and Syria as a conflict of sects as opposed to a conflict between those who accept Western domination over their country and those who don’t. These same people cheer on Maliki and Barzani, one of whom is the bastard child of Iran and America and the… Read more »
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You’re getting out of hand here Jason, in fact i think i am convinced you are a relative of a martin on TDS, if it is the SAAF then good, and how can they be aligned with the west if they are killing ISIS with the approval of Iraq? are you hearing the Iraqi government scream that Syria is not welcomed? i skip over most of your drivel for good reason.

Jason
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Without the billions of dollars in US support, Maliki and his government could never have controlled Iraq, you and others on here refuse to admit what everyone with half a brain knows perfectly well-that Maliki is a client of Washington. It is enough to know that Maliki rose to power under the political process sponsored by Washington let alone the other critical support he receives. Why was it that when his government was in trouble that it went begging to its master the US for more weapons, and what is more disgusting to conduct air strikes on the Iraqi people.… Read more »
Arklight
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Get a grip, Jason, you’re beginning to blither.

ihatepunks
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ihatepunks
Very nice breakdown…….however one must realize that the titles, and monikers utilized by these devils are just slogans. A sort of perverse P.R. program to give a sense of credibility to their beastly evil, destroy the last remnant of original Christianity and tarnish Islam in the sight of the world. It is liken to a rapist calling himself a romantic, a murderer calling himself a life guard or a bank robber calling himself a philanthropist. You can tell a tree by the fruit it bears, and all the titles of nobility in the world cannot gloss over a bought and… Read more »
Fact
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The Americans have started to arrive in Iraq. The question is will the numbers stay below 350 or somehow expand. Kerry is scared. Anything is possible now. The next few weeks should be very interesting. By the way, I think Syria retaliating against Israel is an awful idea, especially now.

SMOKE AND MIRRORS
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SMOKE AND MIRRORS
The US forces are there to pressure and watch Maliki’s military decisions and to facilitate ISIS (Imperialist) operations. By coincodence with the US special forces arrival, there has already been an attack on Iran’s Iraq border with 3 guards killed (provacation #1414343412): Unknown assailants kill 3 Iranian security forces http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/06/25/368563/iranian-guards-killed-near-iraq-border/ Of course there should be a ‘measured’ response to zionist aggression against Syria, they were providing air support for internationally-recognised terrorist forces and attacked and killed soldiers defending a terrorist besieged civilian population and a democratically elected government. The main issue with responding to zionists aggression is getting the timing… Read more »
Arklight
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Right on, smoke. Same old sh*t, different day. I guess that there are still folks out there who are dumb enough to fall for it.

spinworthy
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All smoke all the time! seems to be the ME playbook for the west in general. Please note, rationally considered – there will be NO caliphate anytime soon anywhere near the borders of the illegal settler state, and that ain’t smoke. Why has there been not a peep from the settlers re: the ‘crisis in Iraq’? – They have not the slightest fear or concern as to what is taking place. They are party to the plan and are allies with the paymasters and facilitators. They have all the intelligence (and oversight) they need regarding what’s taking place. Any direct… Read more »
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Syrian Aircraft Bombs ISIS Military Targets In Iraq As First Batch Of US Troops Lands In Baghdad http://www.ibtimes.com/syrian-aircraft-bombs-isis-military-targets-iraq-first-batch-us-troops-lands-baghdad-1610954 Syrian government aircraft bombed Iraqi military targets held by the Sunni militant group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, even as the first batch of 90 U.S. military advisers landed in Iraq Tuesday. The latest airstrikes were conducted in the western province of Anbar, which is the largest governorate in Iraq geographically and shares a border with Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. And while Iraqi state media had initially reported that the attacking aircraft were U.S. drones, Washington denied the… Read more »
Mentat
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The ‘military advisors’ are there to advise their bloody bosses on how best to dispose of al-Maliki, who has outlived his usefulness, the worst crime against US dictatorshit.

But, incredibly, this Dummkopf actually invites the Yankee hangmen who cannot wait to string him up.

I’ll be amazed if he survives another month.

SnoopDoc
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Some people will be amazed to survive another month of your verbal diarrhea.

Arklight
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I can’t believe it! Mentat actually said something that makes sense! Stone the crows!

Arkiight
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The aircraft were, probably, SAAF although it’s possible that Iraq has obtained some Czech L-159s by now, and/or Mi24 helicopters, or both. We’ll just have to see, I guess but it would not be any surprise is Iraq had requested SAAF strikes on ISIS. Syria and Iraq both recognize that ISIS is the mortal enemy of everything human, particularly in Iraq and Syria, currently. There are reports that ISIS has come across our border with Mexico, which would not surprise me since we know that Red China has infiltrated PLA special forces up through there along with weapons.

Jason
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Nice to see the Americans mobilizing their ‘regional assets’, the regimes of Iran, Syria, Turkey etc to target the Iraqi resistance. LOL. It’s the first Gulf war all over again with Syria, ‘the heart of Arabism and resistance’ fighting on the American side under the banner of ‘combating terrorism’. LMAO.

Mentat
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This tragic comedy is Syria’s answer to Sitcom.

SharkKing71
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USAF Droners are going to strike every ISIS positions in Syria using Drones to make ISIS even with FSA,which means it’ll be easy for SAA to wipe them both out.How SAAF will react to these drones,I wonder…….Spare them to kill ISIS or Shoot them down thus decreasing the probability that it could strike SAA in Raqqa.I think the SAAF should sent a fighter to tail the drone and engage against it when it starts to fire on SAA.FSA and JNF are about to lose Bukamal from ISIS and ISIS is entering the Major city of Hasakeh,expect clashes to be occuring… Read more »
Anonymous
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If the USA uses drones in syria they will also bomb the SAA!
They should stay out of syria, if they really wan´t to help fighting terrorism they should stop the support of the jihadies and lift the amrs-embargo against syria. Eith modern russian weapons the SAA should be able to kick the ISIL into hell in one or two years.

Arklight
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Awww, Shark, get real! Here’s how the report will go: ‘We just destroyed a column vehicles, and have expended all ordinance. – – What? – – Whaddya mean it was Iraqi Army? – – Oops!.’

‘We just wiped out a gathering of insurgents – – What? Whaddya mean it was a wedding party? – – Oops!’

Get the picture?

98 luft Balons
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The downed Banderastan helicopter rumored to contain: 2 SENIOR CIA staff, 7-8 American PMC (Blackwater, Academi) + a high-ranking UKR general
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RmBrCQSABqU

25 June 2014, 12:02

Mi-8 shot down near Slavyansk was carrying Ukrainian secret police officers
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_25/Mi-8-shot-down-near-Slavyansk-was-carrying-Ukrainian-secret-police-officers-9740/

Arklight
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Arklight

Good. I think I’ll go celebrate. Well done, SDF! Get some!

michelvandijk
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michelvandijk

Thank you Ziad for this piece.

Killik
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Heard reports that NDF/SAA have taken al-Farahaniah village just North-west of Talbisah and SAAF airstrikes in Raqqa.

Also, al Nusra kills Abu Rashid ,commander of Liwa as Saiqa at Taib, smashes his head,and cuts off his tongue and ISIS Emir Abdul Majid al-Otaibi killed by Islamic Front in Eastern Ghouta.

AND does Maliki pays Syria for the missles they use against ISIS in Iraq? Because if he is not then Iraq owes Syria big time

Arklight
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Hey, Killik, did it occur to you that Iraq and Syria both understand that killing the ISIS/ISIL is just a tad more important than searching the davenport for change to buy the missile? As to the rest , come on back when you’ve got solid info and not scuttlebutt.

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@Ziad Can you please comment of the F-16 attacks on Syria why it was not shut down?. What kind of Army or Air force conduct a military operation near Golam heights and not have a Fking Clue that they need to be prepared just in case israel choose to help the terrorist to enter Syria with their airforce. Syria dont need any S-300 at all to shoot down any F-16.. the S-200s missiles can shoot down planes all the way to telaviv .Buks mobiles defenses deployed near Golam can shot down too planes up to away . Pantsirs defenses can… Read more »
Joene
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Wow, very informative. Thanks Ziad!
I especially like you last comment: ‘The need to establish a Caliphate on earth has terrified most Muslims who view the institution as something of the past that only reminds us of how backward the Arab World really is.’

I fully agree with this. If the Arabs truly want to relive the Golden Age, it’s time to move forward and embrace Modern Times. I think Syria was a prime example of that.
Not surprising all these brainwashed apes are moving to Syria to wreak havoc

M
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I’ll leave commenting to you.
http://en.trend.az/news/politics/2288294.html

Arklight
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Arklight

Dumb move. Really dumb move. Really, really, REALLY dumb move.

Ziad! You are Badly Wrong
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Part 1: Ziad! Your article about Islam and ‘Khalife’ is very wrong. It shows How little you know about the history of Islam. It’s obvious that your are just repeating some misinformation from the ‘Western Historic Books’ about Islam. But what you don’t understand is that your report is an insult to Muslims especially ‘Shias’ and ‘Alawis’ . I’m following your website and your reports for months. And judging by many of your comments, one thing is very clear: You Despise Islam. And you are one of those ‘Fanatic Seculars’ . I’m deliberately using the ‘Fanatic’ and I will tell… Read more »
Ziad! You are Badly Wrong
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Part 2: Now! About Islam. [[1- I have always seen in some of your reports that you deliberately use the Term ‘Hashemites’, especially when it comes to description of the Jordanian King, and you use the most disgusting insults to ‘Hashemites’ . For anyone who doesn’t no what ‘Hashemite’ means: ‘Bani Hashem’ was a branch of the ‘Qorayish’ Tribe. The “Messenger Mohammad” and his cousin and also son-in-law “Ali ibn Abi Taleb”, who were the most decent and righteous Muslims are from ‘Bani Hashem’, hence their are ‘Hashemits’ . Now Ziad! President Assad and his Alawi Sect, Iran, Hezbollah and… Read more »
Ziad! You are Badly Wrong [[The True Story of Khelafat]]
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Part 1: [This incident has been recorded in both Sunni and Shia sources] : Before and Near the ‘Messenger Mohammad’s Death” and when he was returning from his Last ‘Hajj’( One of the most important religious rite in Islam) , the prophet suddenly ordered the huge crowd(between 70,000 to 120,000 which accompanied him) to stop, in a place called ‘Qadir Khom’ . The prophet waited for some time in order to gather all of the people. First, he delivered a speech to the crowd, then He called his Cousin and also Son-in-Law, ‘Ali ibn Abi Taleb’( who according to both… Read more »
Ziad! You are Badly Wrong [[The True Story of Khelafat - Part 2]]
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Ziad! You are Badly Wrong [[The True Story of Khelafat - Part 2]]
Part 2: 1- During the Leadership of ‘Umar’(The second Khalife) ,many corrupt individuals such as ‘Muawiyeh’ , ‘Kaab-Al-Ahbar’ , ‘Abu Hurrayreh’ , appeared in the state of Islam and closely cooperated with Umar. “Kaab-Al-Ahbar” was a Jew who falsely converted to Islam and made many fabricated “Hadiths” (Quotes From the Prophet) .The same goes for “Abu Hurrayreh” and “Muawiyeh” who fabricated thousands of Hadiths . All of them were Fanatic Enemies of the Prophet Muhammad and his Family (Ahl-Al-Bayt) but pretended to be the prophet’s companions. 2- Who is “Muawiyeh” ? He was son of the most Fanatic enemy of… Read more »
Ocko
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Dschenghis Khan was a caucasian. He had red Hair and blue eyes. His kingdom (Moghul) was Caucasian. Mongol is just a corruption of his title Moghul.

dschenghis Khan has been described by Marco Polo and Arab travelers as Caucasian

Paul S.
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Paul S.

The Turks and Mongols were of mixed heritage, especially the former. Their horse technology came from the Scythians who eventually mixed with tribes in the Eurasian steppes.

richard sanchez
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richard sanchez

I always thought the time of the Caliph of Cordoba 929-1029 ( Muslim Spain ) with all the diverse ethiniciites and educated thinkers living together, leading the world in innovation, was Islams Golden Period. Why not fight to bring that pro-diversity, intellectually focused Islamic time back?

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