Downing of Malaysian Air Flight MH-17 – SMOKING “GUN”, NOT A MISSILE

 

 

Photo: NewAntarctica.com

By John Esquire, for SyrPer

 

Whether it was a rush to judgment or a false flag, the official line from Washington was that the downing of Malaysian Air Flight MH-17 was the result of a Russian-made BUK anti-aircraft missile fired by Ukrainian rebels, perhaps even aided by Russian advisers.

Last evening on the CBC (Canadian) news program, the “National”, Michael Bociurkiw, a Canadian member of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe was interviewed.  Bociurkiw (himself of Ukrainian descent) was one of the very first to visit the crash site and conduct an inspection of the wreckage.  He has been at the site ever since.  What Bociurkiw described in the interview flatly rejects the generally accepted version of Flight MH-17’s demise.  When asked if he saw anything which suggested how Flight MH-17 was destroyed, Bociurkiw offered this startling revelation:

“There have (sic) been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with almost looks like machine gun fire, very, very strong machine gun fire that has left these unique marks that we haven’t seen anywhere else.  We have been asked, for example, have we seen any examples of missile.  Well, no we haven’t.  That’s the answer”.

The pieces of the fuselage were shown on the broadcast and contain the unmistakable pattern of metal penetrated by multiple projectiles in a dense pattern; the same type of metal distortion you see on Stop signs that have taken pots shots from an amused passerby.

How could machine gun fire from the ground reach 33,000 feet?  What if it was not from the ground, but from the air instead?  Since the downing of MH-17, the Russian Defense Ministry has documented that a Ukrainian government fighter jet was accelerating rapidly toward MH-17 shortly before it crashed.  (Awkward Questions for US-Ukraine – Lew Rockwell.com)  The coup leaders in Kiev have never refuted that claim.

At the risk of a bad pun, it appears that Bociurkiw’s eyewitness version of events will shoot more holes in Washington’s story line and may provide a smoking gun where only a missile was previously considered.

 

John Esquire.

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That line of investigation would certainly be corroborated with the truth from the black box since pilots would have few secs to say some words. Lets see whether the BB will say what NATO wants or the truth….

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They have got their excuse in early over this they will say the evidence has been tampered with or it was a tragic accident
There’s trouble now between Azerbijan and Armenia i know there’s a history between the 2 and it looks like it’s repeating itself War in Europe is looking to extend beyond the Ukraine the Country’s in a terrible state They were hoping that rampant Fascism would conquer all, it won’t, their army is inept so is their Zionist leadership

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Top 100 hits by the Syrian Army
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97e_1406903681

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A posible downing of the plane by aircraft its far more cruel and macabre than a missile system attack……… and its quite obvious witch alllegiance those fighters have. Ukranian

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I wouldn’t put it past the Kiev coup imposed junta to have shot it down with one of their warplanes; after all, they had no hesitation in killing their own people to illegally seize power. The problem is that even if the facts are established beyond doubt on the basis of a genuine, objective and scientific investigation, the Western presstitue media will simply ignore any inconvenient truths and continue with the lies, smears and insinuations. By and large, the Western populace will as always soak up the lies and be manipulated by them. The level of hysteria towards Russia in… Read more »

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More pictures the mh17 downed from
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This is misguiding. The Su-25 was flying like at 6000m high, as far as i remember. That guy also said that he is not an expert at that matter. That plane was shotdown by a missile. The question is whether is was taken down by an air to air, or ground to air missile, cause we can presume that the “junta” did it. The federalist never possessed the means to take down a plane at that height. I favor the ground to air missile, because the difference in height and speed makes virtually impossible for a Su-25 to shotdown such… Read more »

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The description of Buk Missile System in Wikipedia says: “In general, the system identifies potential targets (radar), selects a particular target (command), fires a missile (launcher) at the target, and resupplies the system (logistics). The missiles require a radar lock to initially steer the missile to the target until the missile’s on-board radar system takes over to provide final course corrections. A proximity fuse aboard the missile determines when it will detonate, creating an expanding fragmentation pattern of missile components and warhead to intercept and destroy the target.” The least part says that the missile destroys the target by ist… Read more »

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There were 2 other airlines in the vicinity, no comment from them. Also there was a NATO exercise taking place, which was to do with electronic jamming and spoofing radars and airplanes. I think the Ukraine command got fooled and shot the plane down, USA had AWACS planes, satellites, communication recorders. Why keep the data hidden, today The RF again contradicted what Ukraine and the ZNATO been saying the whole day, that evidence points to RF.

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The BUK story is rubbish. BUK system missiles makes trails of white smoke that are visible for 12 to 15 miles. No witnesses reported missile smoke trails. Ukraine’s SBU tried to mislead Olga Ivshina, a reporter with the BBC’s Russian bureau, with a photo showing “traces” of the smoke. She found the exact location from the picture but found no evidence of a launch and no locals who had seen it. The BBC has since taken down this video, but it can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUvK5m2vxro. Witnesses in the video saw fighter aircraft, not missiles. A transcript of the video… Read more »

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We will see who have done this. May that one burn.

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111
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Also in a BBC interview near the crash site witnesses saw jet fighter intercepting MH17. Witnesses saw NO thick black smoke trail of a BUK.. that should have been there IF it were a BUK.

Russian radar confirmed jet fighter in vicinity of MH in 30min press conference of the Russian Airforce General.

Spanish Air Traffic Controller working in Kiev Tower confirmed fighter jet shootdown.

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Thanks John and Ziad, i have seen photo’s and i suspect it is bullet holes, most are way to perfectly round to be shrapnel, i also cannot tell what type of bullet, whether from a 20 or 30mm, but it sure looks like bullets to me either way.

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it does not matter , they have blamed Russia and thats all they wanted to prove to the world. Job completed and the matter will be closed.

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As mentioned before? Haisenko has not been mentioned before in this discussion. His expertise has not been mentioned before in this discussion. At this point the “real experts” are either mum or disclosing far less than they know. Who needs them? Do you need to research everything said or written by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to know for certain that the moon is not made out of Swiss cheese? We may not be able to determine exactly what happened without the experts, but we can easily determine what could not have happened. No smoke trail means no Buk missile.… Read more »

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Paul Craig is one of my favorites, he lay down this piece in a very nice way, at the end of the day, do we want to die due to DC’s lies and provocation ? I good read to us all.

http://presstv.com/detail/2014/08/03/373872/time-russian-bear-showed-its-fangs/

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Warning. The media situation is rapidly getting worse. While being used to having Russia-uncritical comments censored in Der Spiegel (Germany) on a regular basis, that used to be an exception on the Independent (UK) forum. This is changing. The new tactic is to let through mildly Russia-defensive comments (which are then declared by the constantly present editor-“commenters” as “Russian troll Comments”. While the Russian Trolls were in the majority up to now (just people like us who didn’t like to be lied to), this is now changing, the majority of comments allowed must be by Washington Trolls. This is a… Read more »

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