A MODEST PROPOSAL: RUSSIA SHOULD HIT ISIS IN SYRIA!

The bankruptcy of American foreign and military policy is best illustrated by what the U.S. doesn’t think through.  I watched Leon Panetta, Scott Pelley and King Abdullah of Jordan humiliate themselves yesterday on one of 60 Minutes’ most pathetic installments in at least 4 decades.  All throughout the curiously limited coverage of the impavid Kurdish campaign to block ISIS (the Kurds are U.S. allies now and deserve all the credit) and Obama’s failures to arm the “moderate” (tee hee hee) Syrian “opposition” when he should have, there was nary a mention of the one actor who could solve all problems festering in that stewpot called “American Planning”.

With all the talk about a possible American strike in Syria against ISIS and Obama’s blustering on television about how he would not hesitate to strike that sociopathic organization no matter where it was located,  nobody ever thought of maybe mentioning the Russians.  Let’s face it, Damascus would have no fear of a Russian attack on its armed forces.  And while Vlad was taking care of business from the air while the Syrian Army anschlagged the terrorists on the ground, the U.S. and its newly-found Kurdish friends could be seen helping the Iraqi army regain its former standing by KO’ing the Caliph – and all this without any American combat troops in Iraq or Syria!  SyrPer is always at the vanguard of creative thinking when the nation’s capital is asleep or adrift on the seas of irrelevance.

With the French having declared their unwillingness to attack Syria’s virulent ISIS vermin probably due to a fear of having their Rafale jets swatted down like so many fruit flies by those pesky S-300s, and the Brits already signaling Parliament’s stuffy chastisement of their own Miles Gloriosus, the illustrious David “Wellington” Cameron, there really are few options available.  One writer had me writhing in uncontrollable laughter when he wrote that possible candidates for an aerial assault in Syria might be Saudi Arabia and the Emirates!  He even suggested Arabian boots on the ground.  (Please don’t fault me if you just started retching with laughter. I will not refund your lunch bill.)  He obviously knows nothing about the suspicious absence of trainable Saudis or Arabians for such goings-on.  (Pakistani mercenaries not included).

Unless you want to employ Lebanon’s vaunted air force, you really don’t have a lot of choices.  But, Vlad is always there to solve a problem if you just let him.  With so much talk about American violation of international law, why not have Dr. Assad invite Vlad’s fleet of brand new Sukhois and MiGs to land at the Mazza Airbase.  Russian pilots would have the unique experience of training against live targets without any Western nags barking out “foul”!…or some such protestation appropriate for Soviet-occupied Afghanistan or present-day Ukraine.  Doesn’t this sound like a plausible solution?  AND WE CAN HAVE THE SAUDIS SAVE FACE BY PAYING FOR THE FUEL AND MAINTENANCE.  As an added incentive for the Saudis, all parties can look askance during the forthcoming brouhaha if the Saudis decide to use their awesome military to invade truculent Qatar and rid the world of this pernicious bacterium.

But, this would be too simple and neat.  The U.S. would publicly endorse Russia’s involvement while secretly doing everything to sabotage it.  Oh, Obama will accuse the Russians of treating with an “illegitimate” regime.  He will accuse the Russians of exactly what everyone is accusing the Americans of doing; using ISIS to attack the Syrian Army, although, now, it will be the Muscovite subterfuge of attacking ISIS so as to finish off America’s heroes in the Nusra group!  Doesn’t this sound oh so Byzantine?   The Zionist Neo-Cons will have epidemic renal colics as they squirm on the cold tile floors of the nation’s capital exuding urine and bile, expectorating their venomous sputum.  “Can’t do it, Prez. Can’t do it!”.  Hillary will have a field day condemning cooperation with the evil Vlad and John McCain will herald in WWIII just as he mercifully bestows upon the people of Arizona his own very welcome and lonely death.

Yeah.  It really doesn’t pay to think too much.  Good ideas these days are for the birds.  I just wish the American people knew how uncreative and dull their government really is. ZAF


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jo6pac
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Yep, the Russians should what they are doing, just keep the upgrade in weapons and bullets coming and let Syria handle it.

Anonymous
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Did nobody notice the Ukies just took themselves out of the gamia. Their defence minister said Russia attacked with nuclear weapons.
Even his own people contradicted him this time.
It’s totally ridiculous.
It’s in Det Spiegel, and all of Germany is laughing.
However it is not in The Guardian, nor in The Independent, so it may just be ignored by US media again as well – would not surprise me.
Happend last time, too – so UK and US still trust the Ukies not the Russians and not Syria.
But why would we care about such far-fetched connections, we’re SImpsons fans.

Anonymous
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It’s on Facebook.
Reuters doesn’t have it.
If everyone deletes it, nobody will believe it.
Bad problem, but solved.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-minister-erntet-spott-fuer-bericht-ueber-atomschlag-a-993149.html

Anonymous
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Done. It never happened, only the Russians are talking about it now.
It will be ignored, let’s be nice imperial lackeys and ignore it as well.
Way to go,
Obama is bombing Syria and Israel shooting down the SAAF.
Something happened that changed the entire good/evil denomination setup, and all US propaganda needs do is not talk about it ?
I find that very convincing. Their opposition is unprofessional, they deserve to lose.

Anonymous
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regime dictator assad should get his dacha ready in paris. he will need it very soon now.

Anonymous
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Are you a jihad goat fucker asshole or are you a jewish maccabee asshole or are you an anti-Baathist asshole whose family hopes to be big shots in a new oligarchy, asshole ?
Do your think your homosexuality is genetic – or was cause your daddy touched you up, little one ? Primates are known to do that.

Arklight
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Ziad: As far as I can tell, having followed the northern YPG campaign from the start, if the Kurds have gone over to the Americans it’s because Syria threw the Kurds away. The Kurds are not Arabs, but so what? No captured enemy weapons were given to the Kurds, no air support, not a ‘Thank you’ – – nothing. A few days ago the Kurds were begging the Americans for airstrikes because they were getting nothing from SAAF although the Kurds have been fighting like the heroes of legend and myth against the common enemy. If the Kurds have gone… Read more »
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Arklight, i have always enjoyed your posts, but in this case you have to Give Dr. Assad credit- Why arm the Kurds if one day you might have to fight them ? Which i think both Syria and Iraq will have to fight the Kurds, the Kurds are just too Myopic, short sighted, greedy, ambivalent and visceral to be an ally. For the same reason Russia sold the s-300 to Syria but NOT to Iran, again for geo-strategic reasons, both Iran and Russia is in the same business – energy, who knows what can develop later, as America found out… Read more »
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Raymond: There again, you’re making a presumption for the future that may not have ever occurred. We’ll never know, now, will we? Everyone seems to assume that everyone else is an untermensch with barely the capacity to put one foot ahead of the other. The European peoples made that same stupid assumption for centuries and then, when the European mastery of the rest of the world ended, forever, on December 7, 1941 the Europeans were so blinded by their own arrogance that they did not understand that the world had just turned upside down. The Kurds fought Syria’s enemies, since… Read more »
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“when the European mastery of the rest of the world ended, forever, on December 7, 1941” – Your knowledge about history is zero.

dudleydoright911
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Dr. Tarpley has mentioned this as well – I said it last week and it just makes sense. Great post.. The Russians forced the US’s hand on chemical weapons and I fully agree they should say “hey we’ll save you some money and we can get this done faster this way.” In the light of day the I’d love to see them squirm out.

I had the displeasure of hearing that harpie Samantha Power rabidly calling for all sorts of humanitarian bombing.. These folks are truly a plague.

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“humanitary bombing”

That’s hillarious!

Arklight
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Paul: Like ‘jumbo shrimp’, huh?

Frank Reitzenstein
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Putin reads this blog daily. He is onto the case already! http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/putin-considers-throwing-russia-isis-fight-report-n208776 By the way, this is more or less disinfo, in case you think Maidan has moved to the Kremlin. http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-moscow-protest-russia-ukraine-20140921-story.html The numbers may be as low as 5000 and include Ukrainian refugees and right wing groups, all with different agendas. This is what protests serious enough to topple the Soviet Union really look like, ie 100 x the recent event. http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/moscow1991/AP9103100617.jpg Vladimir has a cushy number compared with Gorbachev. Well actually out of all the pollies on the planet, Putin earned it. Gorbachev deserved his. For those who… Read more »
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France just attacked Daesh in Iraq, if Russia wants to be of any significant meaning in the world it should hit Daesh in Syria and they should do it really soon before the U.S. will breach Syrian airspace and attack supposed Daesh positions wich would mean Syrian Army positions could be surprise attacked at any given time.

Frank Reitzenstein
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Note how the West who threatened to sue Putin have come to their senses. Putin’s involvement in the airliner crash sounds hard to prove. However the fact that plane was way off course and that no air traffic information was released makes Kiev a much easier target.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/21/german-victims-families-to-sue-ukraine-over-downing-malaysia-airlines-flight-17/

After the anti Putin hysteria, see how everything is returning to sober reality. They even realise that he is needed at the G20 in Brisbane. Yes because of ISIS.

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It was flying in a corridor over the war zone, and lower than it had a dozen times before. The investigation and access to data and reports has been shut down. I think anyone with critical thinking skills knows that it was shot down

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Frank, Dudley: I watched the Russian military presentation of its radar tracking. That showed a Ukie Su25 intercept MH17, immediately following which the airliner lost speed and altituede, then went in.while the fighter flew off. An American at the presentation tried to claim that the US had ‘proof’ that MH17 had been shot down by a Buk missile, and was met with, basically, ‘You’re a lyin’ sack. and you got nuthin’. The American offered no tracking from any AWACS or any other source, sat back, and shut up. Later examination produced 30mm cannon shell holes in the cockpit area, plus… Read more »
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You claim that Putin personally is involved in “the airliner crash”? That MH17 was “way off course”?

Well, normal people have not heard about this. Putin told you so? When he said that he reads SyrPer every day? And that they invited him to G20? Secretly, of course.

Arklight
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Nob: You? AGAIN? Good grief.

Nobilitatis
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Do you think that I do not dare to comment on something because you might read it? You overestimate yourself.

Arklight
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Nob: You’re a dick, and that’s a fact.

Frank Reitzenstein
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Wow. Don’t you read? I didn’t say Putin was involved, but he sure has been accused. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707337/British-families-prepare-sue-Putin-millions-MH17-crash-following-claims-involved-shooting-jet.html I said Putin reads SyrPer as a joke, as Ziad and Putin had the same idea at the same time. Our treasurer rang the G20 leaders and they mostly want Putin to attend. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-20/hockey-says-australia-wont-shut-door-on-putin/5757780 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0c7577fc-40b6-11e4-9ce5-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3E8RTpBss You are trying to prove that I’m not normal and a nutter, but all that you have exposed is that you as thick as a plank. I always research everything and no, reading mainstream headlines alone and never thinking at all, then attacking those who are not as… Read more »
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1) Your writings are not clear. So, you did write that Putin was involved. You also wrote the other things I cited. There was no reference indicating that it came not from you. 2) Some of your comments indicated in the past that you are not normal. And you let them stand as they were. 3) There is no visible difference between claims you intended to be “funny” and claims equally strange which are serious for you. 4) If you write something meaningful I do not comment. Now, if you want to research “everything” you are welcome but you will… Read more »
Frank Reitzenstein
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That’s one way of putting it. But an easier explanation is that my posts are not clear because you are incredibly stupid. But that’s quite NORMAL for many Westerners.

Nobilitatis
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For you I can be more simple and clear. You are not able to write understandable and you are to stupid to understand that. You blame others for your faults.

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If true this could be a real game changer and excellent strategy. Precision strikes are way to go as mobility in those open land desert areas is paramount. Now bombing away from armchair and safe distance is the answer, pickup trucks full of al-Baghdadi (actually he should be called al-Tel-Avivi ) stinking rats will be siting ducks very soon. No wonder why Hezbollah is always the first to get the best stuff from Iran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA0bWLkkdvQ

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-drones-wreak-havoc-on-syrian-rebel-bases/

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5eb_1411329556

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Looking forward to it, Russia aces flying with SAAF bombing rats would be a dream come true, what a day would that be…. May it happen indeed.

Anonymous
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Russian aces LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOOLOOL!

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ln short from a Dutch news agency:
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/3884322/poetin-overweegt-russische-deelname-strijd.html

The Russian president Vlad Is concidering joining the fight against terrorist fighters of Daesh.

This is a move of a tower on the big chessboard.
Very simple game against a bunch of ….

Cannot paste beautifull picture of Putin playing chess on a long table against multiple players,
so as Obama, Cameron, Hollande (? not Dutch) and Merckel.

Raymond Dillon
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Did “Obama” just get trumped again? First Lavrov with the Chemical weapons deal, now Putin?
Those Russian boys weren’t raised on KFC, Artificial sweetners and GMO food you know, and they dont play Golf , they play Chess and wrtestling with Siberian Tigers.

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Russia should hit ISIS in Syria? Well, why not? If the US claims the right to attack ISIS in Syria without the consent of the Syrian government, then why should Russia not do so with its consent? And why stop at Russia? Why not invite China? What about giving the Algerian air force a day in the sun? If the UAE air force can bomb jihadists in Libya from bases in Eqypt without anyone batting an eyelid, surely no-one will object if President Assad calls on his Arab allies to bomb the very same type of neanderthals in Syria? Perhaps… Read more »
freeman
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This would be the perfect oppurtunity for Iran, Russia or China to give their pilots some reallife battle experience.

Arklight
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freemason: Iran loaned a dozen or so experienced Su25 aviators to Iraq when the Saddam ‘loaners’ were returned. One of the Iranians was killed in action, in Iraq.

freeman
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freemason?! really…

Arklight
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freeman: Yup, really.

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Arklight = freemason = idiot

SaveIraqSyria
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Not only that, but Russia could do some marketing by showing the World how effective it’s weaponry is…

Dany the fatso
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Nice article, but Is not Nesesary any Russian Intervention on Syria The SAA can handle the situation, Look the news of SAAF targeted bombing on Arsal, more bombs on ISIS/Nusra/Rebels. Fine. Keep fighting SAA. A rusian intervention could be used as a excuse for more Saudi Arabian Ape recruitement. Russia will only intervere when someone extrange intervere. (Aka U.S, Israel)

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Dany: The Russians already have a naval base at Tartus, with Iran set to build one at Lattakia (construction troops are on site). KSA needs no excuse to screw around in everybody else’s business. Since Lebanon has no air force, SAAF is picking up the slack on the border, just as they did for Iraq by contracting to IAF ‘retired’ Syrian Su25 crews. Beyond that, we’ll see what plays out.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoijE2SATVk

Just watch this lying whore Samantha Power go on about how Syria has not targeted ISIS with any sincerity, and in fact have been complicit?

If there is any doubt that these folks ( her, nudelman, kerry, mccain ) are under satanic influence that video should put it to rest.

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C’mon guys, it’s all fantasy. My government can’t deal with USA led coup at it’s borders, and you are asking for a meaningful international policy? We are heavily penetrated by parasites, our business elite is tied up to London stock exchange, all their kids a studying in England and US. Look at recent developments in Ukraine, Novorosija advance was stopped by Putin’s “peace proposal”. I am small person, but i know national interests of my country. While i respect Putin by his past deeds, he will be judged in the end by the results of this new world\cold war. And… Read more »
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Regarding the Kurdish discussion earlier… the Kurds are not originally from the region and have in the past harmed others (indigenous Christians) and caused destructive battles for liberation with Turkey, Iraq, and Iran. (with the last point, I don’t blame them. but don’t blame anyone for being against this either). However, now it does seem like they are acting responsibly. Protecting the Yazidi’s and Christians from ISIS, being content with autonomy within Iraq rather than insisting on pure independence, and not really going after the SAA in this vulnerable time. It is this integrity that makes them the darlings of… Read more »
rus.lang
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I believe that Kurdish card could be played by Syria smart and dumb way. Kurdish area’s that Syria can give independance is around 10% – result – friendly nation of Kurds, safe corridor through independent iraq kurdistan (now friendly) to iran, million of problems for ottomans, prosperity because of traiding iranian and kurdish oil and gas through safe kurdish corridor.
dumb way – to fight kurds and get US\Israel sponsored ethnic based insurgency.
Syria will get much more money being a naval transit hub of both Kurdish and Iranian oil AND gas, then just owning small part of kurdish oil.

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Agreed for the future. And need as many friends as possible now.

(I am not trying to overlook the Assyrian minority either. The Kurds are acting responsible to them now. And will be Syria duty to assure they do in the future)

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rus: Too late now.

rus.lang
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Such things easily changable by elimating\cutting of finances of wrong people and giving money and support for the right one. It’s Intel.Services job, if country’s leadership sets the task.

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American: The ex-Syrian Kurds aren’t sitting on any oil wells, but the were definitely plugging a lot of holes in the northern border. Well, according to Ziad the Kurds have gone over to the Americans so, insead of MAYBE Syria fighting them SOMEDAY, SAA may well be engaged in combat against the Kurds tomorrow. Personally, If I were Putin, I’d think a long damn time before I put out any more effort than meaningless drivel on behalf of an ‘ally’ which just threw away a strategic internal de facto partnership with an ally (temporary or otherwise) in the same country… Read more »
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Decision on 9 – 24 – 2014 “US draft resolution on foreign terrorist fighters FTF” http://un-report.blogspot.de/2014/09/us-draft-resolution-on-foreign.html “Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations, […] Decides that Member States shall, consistent with international human rights law, international refugee law, and international humanitarian law, prevent and suppress the recruiting, organizing, transporting or equipping of individuals who travel to a State other than their States of residence or nationality for the purpose of the perpetration, planning, or preparation of, or participation in, terrorist acts or the providing or receiving of terrorist training, and the financing of their travel and… Read more »
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clearly: All that is moot, since the Kurds in their desperation provided the US with the fig leaf it could not do without.

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“The army units advanced in Adra Al-Balad in a bid to pave the way for seizing more towns in Eastern Ghouta, including the town of Douma, in the Southern parts of the country.
….At least 30 Takfiri terrorists with Saudi nationality were among those killed in heavy clashes with the Syrian army in the Aleppo countryside.”
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13930631000431

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Syrian airstrike kills 10 rebels near Lebanon border http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2014-09/23/c_127018717.htm DAMASCUS, Sept. 22 (Xinhua) — The Syrian air force raided a rebel position near a border crossing between Syria and Lebanon on Monday, killing 10 and injuring 15 others, according to the pan- Arab al-Mayadeen TV. The airstrike targeted a position of the armed militant groups at the al-Zamarani border crossing, said the report, spelling no further details. The Syrian troops have repeatedly engaged with militants who were sneaking in and out of Syria through neighboring Lebanon. In recent months the Syrian army succeeded to recapture several towns in the rugged… Read more »
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Are Turkish banks next?

US jury finds [SAUDI MAJORITY OWNED] Arab Bank liable for backing terrorism

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/international/us-jury-finds-arab-bank/1375942.html

M
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Even better, challenge Russians to a duel to the last rat. They can bring their SU-25-s and using same airports as SAAF bomb the “IS”. Who ever kills most rats – wins. They can even setup a online scores board with confirmed kills, so that the rest of the world can enjoy cheering… I am sure that SANA and RT would be happy to film the whole thing, bringing the breath taking photos and videos of some cool hits, maybe… This sport would most likely become more popular then Russian “tank biathlon”. Don’t ask me what I think of “tank… Read more »
M
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Tony Abbott: “The only safe place for those who have been brutalized and militarized by fighting with terrorists is inside a maximum security prison.”

The way I read this it looks like the whole Australian army goes to jail! LOL

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All Russia needs to do.. is to say they are sending a couple of hundreds of military advisors to the Syrian army to combat ISIL and other terrorist groups.. that way the west will be warned that Russia have staff in Syria guiding the Syrian army strategy against ISIS ,this military advisors in company of Russian media journalist and fully covered…… This means that if US dares to attack the Syrian army and any Russian is killed military or journalist after being warned many times of not attacking Syria.. then Russia will be on its legitimate rights to Shutdown an… Read more »
M
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Politically, the Russia “blinked first”. The western block has taken over/destroyed some countries while the Russia stand by and did next to nothing and is now “paying the price”. Let me elaborate. NATO “tested” the Russia with attacking one neutral country (Yugoslavia) unilaterally (against the international law). That was their strategic move to see if they can start expanding east. The Yugoslavian authorities WARNED Russia what is going on and asked for help but Russia stand aside and let NATO bomb it. Side note: Yugoslavian forces were actually winning the war against foreign (NATO) backed gang but couldn’t face the… Read more »
M
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MUAHAHAHAHAHA, here we go, I was right…

http://rt.com/news/189788-syria-airstrikes-islamic-state/

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M: Well, goody for you.

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Anon: Too late.

Anonymous
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When it comes to the kurds in Syria ,the are the only ones to blame for any security problems. For near 2 years the Syrian army was left alone to fight FSA and Alnusra while the Kurdish position was of no interference while Syria was being bombed and attack and many civilians killed every day. So they are simply opportunistics ,that took advantage of the Syrian war to take control of more territory in Syria for their hoped Kurdistan.. IT was even reported by ZIAD that the Kurdish in Syria were responsible for the Stealth Invasion of ISIS in RAQQA… Read more »
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Anon: Bull.

Anonymous
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If people look at the CIA own map of kurdistan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan#mediaviewer/File:Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_(1992).jpg they will notice that their ancient lands were mostly centered in TUrkey and in IRAQ.. and barely nothing from Syria.. they are literary occupying Syrian lands today that never they lived.. If Kurdish are allowed to have their independence.. then UN ,US and Europe should recognize too Crimea as Russian too.. and declare Ukraine a Russian land too because it was until a couple of decades ago. And also recognize Kurdish lands in Turkey that takes no less than half of their country. Basically the Kurds are people who… Read more »
M
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How about “Kosovo”?! There was NEVER ANY nation called “Kosovars”, yet they got a (WESTERN and SUNNI RECOGNIZED AND SPONSORED) country now?! Watch when one day Albanians on Kosovo vote for joining the (NATO) Albania. Basically the NATO has stolen a peace of Serbia and gave it to Albania. Google for those terrorists that call themselves “KLA”. They carry ALBANIAN FLAGS, only the blind can’t see that… As of Kurds, I agree that they look like some opportunistic bunch. Knowing so makes them predictable. I can see them being NATO (and thus “FSA”) ally in their fight against the “IS”… Read more »
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M: Talk about a day late and a dollar short – –

M
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Yes, well, I made that comment BEFORE I found out that the western allies have started bombing campaign in Syria.

Nobilitatis
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First you should be clear about which principle is the one that decides about independence. Then you should try to work that out with all of the ethnic groups anywhere. Including your homeland (does it have natives?). Then the next step would be how to choose a way for separation. You should be aware that historical reasons are very tricky and that there are probably as many reason against your preferred aim as there are in favour. The last Thing to learn is that the countries with power always get their way with the smaller ones because of that power… Read more »
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Us bombing in syria now… good lord

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As the site clown here says, “Get some!”

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-22/us-arab-partner-nations-begin-airstrikes-syria#comment-5245657

USA, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Bahrain. I hope Putin does not let Syria down. This is insane.

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U.S., PARTNER NATIONS STRIKING ISIS IN SYRIA: PENTAGON. Translation: Qatar bombing the Assad regime to clear way for its natgas pipeline
11:34 AM – 23 Sep 2014

Arklight
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Eddy: Syrian command cut its own throat. Don’t expect to see the Russians anytime soon. Putin cannot abide fools.

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terrible news read on press tv Jordan is boasting about having been involved plus the other mad monarchs form the gulf. Giving those pipsqueaks a free hand to your country must be insanity itself. Syria should bomb Jordan at once. Syria will lose all respect if they just accept this.You cannot give states which have been your enemy free bombing rights to your land. I am sad how great the nation of Syria should now be pissed on by these midgets. Iran boasting about new friendship with Saudi Arabia. You gotta show strength to get Moscow’s help. first Isrealis which… Read more »
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this post above is from stjovite not anonymous

Gerald Rubin
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Began 8:30 PM Eastern Standard Time. I did not expect US to blunder into this madness so soon.

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Dudley: I told you it was coming.

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Dudley: USAF up to the same old shit. Link: http://rt.com/news/189872-children-killed-strike-syria/

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OK, stupid question: Why does Syria need help from anybody’s air force? Don’t they have an air force of their own capable of killing those vermin anytime and anywhere? Why the US or Russia? They dont need either.

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Tony: Until Syria threw away the Kurds they were okay – – now? Not so much.

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Truth about America. They don’t want to invade/ attack Syria. Some devious neo-cons and New American Century democracy proselitizers wanted regime change. Mainly to balance out opening Iraq up to Iran after democratizing a majority Shiite country. They wanted to do the reverse in Syria to balance out their mistake. America is war weary, so they had to listen to a regional approach to achieve this. And Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Erdoghani Turks wanted the exact same thing so they partnered. Since Saudi and Qatari are so backwards, they regard alqaeda as “moderates rebels”. So most Syrians, even if they… Read more »
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American: Don’t hold your breath until the Russian national troops, planes and equipment arrive. Don’t be surprised if the Russian Navy pulls out of Tartus, too.

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You just see the seeds that will lead to the Great War. The beginning of the rift in this unholy alliance. Every involved Nation will claim a right to turn to each other once these tensions carry through a more geo strategically valued territory, Turkey, turning on each other leading to the Greatest bloodbath Mankind ever witnessed.

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JUST BROKE-WITH MAJOR NEWS SOURCES BREAKING INTO LOCAL PROGRAMING TO REPORT THE AIR STRIKES Pentagon says U.S. a… by email Sort by Pentagon: US, Partners Begin Airstrikes in Syria ABC News 17 minutes ago Pentagon: US, partners expand airstrikes into Syria against Islamic State group targets US and partners begin airstrikes in Syria: Pentagon – New York Post Pentagon reports U. S., partners begin airstrikes against I… – Tampa Bay Times U. S. Airstrikes Begin in Syria – WBOC Salisbury all 24 news articles… Pentagon: US and partners begin airstirkes in Syria Associated Press via Yahoo! News 17 minutes ago… Read more »
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R: As soon as the Kurds turned east for air support, this was inevitable. Anyone but Syrian command could see it coming.

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American of Syrian Descent
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…Or I could be wrong

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AOFD You posted a few minutes before me.I had that within 2 minutes after it was posted by email-but i wanted to be sure-so i waited for the news to spread and then i had to decide whether to post it here. Joint Chiefs of Staff made it clear to Obama that they would decide,and firmly,when and if the operation would go forward.They do not trust his methods and have little respect for his foreign policies. My guess is that they have given the SAA a big boost.One source said they have been gathering info for the targets for well… Read more »
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For all the douchebgs on this site that think the US is complicit with ISIS. The US just devastated
Raqqa and command/control centers for ISIS all over Syria. In one night the US did more damage to ISIS than has been done against ISIS in the entire Syrian war. And the vaunted Syrian air defense did not take down a single US aircraft. Russian junk.

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ISIS are american trained mercenaries imbecile.. If they bomb ISIS headquarters is because they know where they are since they armed ISIS.. if you came to this site to tell us how good are american government are that now helping Syria.. you can take your bullshit to CNN news or BBC over there people will buy it.. Obama armed ISIS and now claims wants to fight them… Nobody buy your good american will it imbecile.. hope Russia nuke your navy in the persian gulf motherfucker once a major world war 3 . That will teach you to not mess with… Read more »
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Don’t you get tired of spouting the same old goat fart inspired rhetoric? Are you sure you aren’t Arklight? Why on God’s Earth would the US train ISIS? Clearly, the Turks have gone rogue. The US Is 85% Christian. Why would we train imbeciles that behead Christians? Logical reasoning is clearly not your strongsuit. I get sick of this anti-US BS consistently spouted on here. Ziad sponsors this thought. He talks a lot of shit but if Ziad feels so strongly about Syria why doesn’t he go and fight? Because he doesn’t have the balls! Ziad is this generations version… Read more »
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LOL US a christian nation .. LOL YOur president is not even CHristian but a muslin from Kenya.. LMAO.. ISIS are the same FSA scum that obama was arming 3 years ago.. Look at MCAIN photo with FSA leaders ,they are now ISIS members imbecile.

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Learn English before you post pickle puffer.

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I can understand this comment, most of it is already confirmed.

“John McCain, Conductor of the “Arab Spring” and the Caliph”

http://www.voltairenet.org/article185085.html

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Murkan fleet will die in the Mediterranean as prophesized. It makes a whole lot more of a sense if you think the Bigger Picture.

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Get some ISIS! USA coming through

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F22 Raptors used in Syria. Russian/Syrian primitive air defense systems did not even know they were there. LOL. Americans will show these ISIS bastards what it means to take on a redneck.

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I agree that the Syrian air defense systems aren’t up to date, just like large segments of the SAA. It will be interesting to see how Russia is going to respond. Interesting to see if the US is going to step up the anti-Assad campaign, bomb Syrian targets (“by accident”) as well.

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I might add that I don’t believe the Syrian army tried to take down US fighthers and missiles. I’m sure they saw them, but did nothing.

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I agree with you. I think the US contacted Assad weeks ago for OK. It is nothing you will ever hear or read about though..

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Flanders: Given Syria’s internal developments over the past few days, If I was Russia I wouldn’t waste any more money on Syria.

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It is possible that both Syria and Russia knew and approved of these anti IS strikes. Obviously, none of the parties involved will admit that. Geopolitical power politics…

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Don’t get over confident. The F-117a was also “invisible” but was taken down with the Soviet air defense system made in ’70…
The REAL question is WHY the Syrian Air Defense didn’t react…

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Think about it. Not so hard to figure it out…. Syrian Forces can’t handle a full scale war with the US…

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Flanders: Right now I’m at 75-25 Syria loses.

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Flanders is right (did I just say that?). Not only were Raptors were used but multiple aircraft and drones were used. Even more interesting is that other Arab countries joined in the attack. Russian junk defense did not detect or shoot down a single aircraft. HAHAHA.

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I believe they detected some and did not try to shoot down anything for the reason below…

It is possible that both Syria and Russia knew and approved of these anti IS strikes. Obviously, none of the parties involved will admit that. Geopolitical power politics…
Read more at https://syrianperspective.com/2014/09/a-modest-proposal-russia-should-hit-isis-in-syria.html#6e0oSjP2b2aDJLLL.99

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw Pierre Sprey co-designer of the F-16,A-10 and also worked on the F-15 but quit to do the F-16 because the F-15 became bloated. . His words – stealth is a scam and Russian and other (even old WW2 British ) longwave radar can see ***all*** “stealth” planes. Sprey says the F-35 is trash and the F-22 is only marginally better. Sprey trashing the F-22. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAq6oMG7DoEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw Russia apparently reneged on selling Syria S-300s. My guess is there was a deal in the background. If Putin loses Syria and Tartus he is finished. Russia’s friends will see that Russia does not… Read more »
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Another of the occasional command failures, no doubt.

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Command failures like yoiur Obama.

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?Roadrunner: Obama was a failure of contraception.

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F-18s are not Raptors.. unless you think is required “special air defense ” to shut down planes made in the 70’s.. F-22s neither are bombers but air to air fighters , is air to ground capabilities is only limited to 2 small medium very cheap old bomb.. so proof your completely a retard.. F-18s are the right plane for ground attacks it can carry many air to ground weapons but they will never stand a chance flying over any Syrian defenses in Syrian held territory. Northern Syria is ISIS controlled territory.

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Anon: Redneck? Nah. Grit, more like.

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the bombing was done with permission of government anon. hence no retaliation from air defences. take into account that syria has a defence pact with iran. the rednecks have not won a war since 1945. and they did that with a lot of help

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I can believe what happened!!!!!!! How could this happen? Why did the Syrian air defines systems not protect the Syrian territory? Did these strikes hit any Syrian Army positions/convoys or any of their bases???

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IF you look at the Syrian map.. you will see about 200km deep in syria is controlled by ISIS.. Syria do not have air defenses in ISIS north controlled territories. Basically Obama is taking advantage of the buffer zone created in North east Syria to use it as a safe passage for their planes.. Syrian airforce is the only one that can fight back in Northern Syria ..but doesn’t seem they have given the order to retaliate yet.

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Anon: After the Kurds left, I’d guess that Syrian command will spend about a week scraping the shit off its legs, and then light out for Mogadishu or someplace.

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US devastating ISIS tonight. For all you conspiracy nuts (Arklight), suck a big long dick as the US saves the world, once again, (please read history books about Imperial Germany, Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire – as well as causing the fall of the Soviet Union).

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Anon: USAF is doing what it always does, which is kill everything that moves and hope some of the dead were actually bad guys. Don’t lecture me on history, you stupid shit – – US hasn’t ‘won’ a war since, and it won’t win this one, either. Yo mama’s calling you to come back to bed and lay more pipe.

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Your mama just got done screaming for more! US hasn’t won a war? Pray to whatever God you pray to that you don’t ever have to face off against a US soldier.

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Anon: Blow it out your seabag, pogue.

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Last thing we Aussies knew about Yank grunts is they preferred to lie low in foxholes eating ice cream to getting up and taking on the Nip.
North Veetnamese were never afraid of Yanks — they did fear Aussies.
Blow it, anon septic tank.

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Thylacine: Where were you on Tarawa, Guadalcanal, Bouganville, Omaha Beach? Mean and baseless drivel is not the same as witty repartee.

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1 million vietnamese soldiers died, 50 thousand US troops died. They were plenty afraid.

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Anon, you trully are a moron talking out of your arse, america this and america that, america has not won a war before WW2, if it wasn’t for the Russians killing germans and keeping them busy the whole of Europe along with america would have had the war drag on for years to come and they “might” have actually lost. Since then america has NOT won any wars, and as for why didn’t the Syrians shoot down any jets then read my comment in previous posts dickhead, they might have had a deal with the yanks, and as i have… Read more »
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How did they do against Sadam? How did they do in the Cold War? USA USA USA USA

Anonymous
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And ISIS doen’t go Roman on everyone? Be lucky that the US doesn’t want to rule the world. Our principles keep the world sane.

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American principles like you leader Obama? How is that wide open border doing? Mexico and the rest of the world invading and bankrupting America. The US military does nothing. Cowards. They cannot even protect their own border.

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Anon: Hahahahahahahahahahaha – – you’re such a comic!

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Anon, your principles have gone way astray and out the window as the zionists have conquered your country as they are by proxy all others, Russia and China along with all the other enemies america has made are going to demolish it.

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Get some ISIS! Most bad ass country in the history of the world showing the world who the true world super power is. Reading this blog will be hilarious now as they realize there’s nothing their weak/pathetic country can do about it.

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It was a fake war instrumented by US funds that own the USA Corporation, Rockefeller and Rothschild. Not 5 years passed after the ending of the WWIII and Imperialist Japan and Nazi Germany were forgiven and joined with the US in multiple agreements that changed our way of lives in untold ways demoralizing with their “wonders” the human race meanwhile.

Now its the final chapter, the next war that will plunge us to Hell.
You cannot make deals with the Devil. Its for him to drug you in his Abyss and soon NOBODY will have any doubts about the real BIG PICTURE.

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This chapter of the war just begun , it is still premature to launch major conclusions , wait a bit and see what it tells us Ziad .
Furthermore, a version stands on the supposed ” rescue” of Turkish hostages:

“Turkey gave 49 war tanks & weapons to ISIS against Kurds in syria & ISIS freed 49 Turkish diplomat.
Video shows Turkish train carrying war tanks and weapons, delivered to ISIS in Tel Abyad , the place that isis is fighting with kurdish In north Syria right now”

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1172050

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49 Howitzers T-155 Firtina and ‘made in Turkey

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Link to Press TV article. I told ya.

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Lol at all the dumb arises who think Russia or Syria can stop the US….

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*Arses

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Russia and Syria can just watch Obama destroy America and they laugh. Americans are too stupid to stop it and the military is too cowardly.

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DON’T FEED THE TROLL

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It’ll be hilarious watching the clowns on this site backtrack.

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Dingbat septic doesn’t realise Russia stopped ’em one year ago.
The anti-missile frigate Moskva shot down the Tomahawks aimed at Damascus (another cowardly war crime, from the repeat offender, Gen. Stavridis of NATO, rogue Strangelove pillow-biter). Russian Intelligence rang up US MI, saying, ‘Don’t do that again.’
They didn’t.

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This was just floated-can not guarantee it-but here it is— . The Syrian government has some of the most formidable air defenses in the Middle East. U.S. military planners said they expected Assad would stand down and allow them to attack Islamic State targets freely. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary,said in a statement that “partner nation forces” were also involved in the attacks, but did not identify the other countries. Two U.S. defense officials identified the partner nations as—————– Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.—————- One official described them as “full participants” in the… Read more »
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Basically US got an alliance of Dictators ..(ie Saudi Arabia ,Qatar..) supporters of terrorism. to attack a democratically elected Government that is not their puppets.. All this “attacks ” on ISIS are just a show.. a Stunt.. US will never attack terrorist that they can use to fight the Syrian Government which is the real target of the so called US “liberation” in Syria.

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The slaves of Israel are bombing Syria

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As has been stated many times before concerning these American air strikes, it is nothing but a game on the part of the Americans in order to become directly involved in the Syrian conflict and to dictate its outcome. Remember ‘ISIL first’, ‘Assad next’. Now that the Americans are in, who believes they will leave until they get what they want in Syria? What is hilarious is that some people on here are feeling a sense of euphoria as the US takes out some of its mercenaries, they would welcome with open arms those who have sent thousands of butchers… Read more »
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Thats correct.. all this is a public relations campgaing.. they Americans bombs a couple of empty buildings.. ameripigs see buildings on fire and assume ISIS was there and their bodies burning.. Is all a show to fool ,ameripigs into thinking that what Obama is doing is Right.. then little by little they will start aiming at their real target , the Syrian Government air defenses and army.. claiming “it was for self defenses” LOL imagine this US airforce invades another sovereign nation and later complain they were attacked and were forced to fight back.. This is all about helping the… Read more »
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Here is a photo of the Son of Turkey Dictator Erdogan.. friend of Obama meeting with
ISIS leaders..

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Syria was aware of the coming strikes

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There was word they were informed via the UN and that firepied whore psaki said they “warned syria not to target US planes.” I posited weeks ago ( to the derision of a lead homosexual transgender midget paraplegic troll here ) that the US perhaps was involved in quiet backchannel communication with Syria about this and perhaps that is true. Fact is if Syria wanted to engage some of these tomahawks or places they could have but clearly chose not to, clearly not seeing it as a threat. This doesn’t change the fact that it is highly troubling. A couple… Read more »
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‘Washington informs Syrian envoy before US strikes’ Informing is not coordination or consent as Lavrov and co have tried to paint it. The Syrian envoy was merely told that strikes were about to occur on ISIS positions, this is dictation not partnership. The US position is crystal clear as it has constantly refused to either coordinate or ask Syria permission for air strikes, the Russian position is to confuse Syria in line with US strategy by pretending that there are ‘safeguards’ regarding ‘sovereignty’ and that air strikes need a UN resolution. LOL. You couldn’t be any more complicit than the… Read more »
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US+puppets do what they want, regardless of the UN position of the issue. They attack sovereign countries against international law.
1)And…? NOTHING.
2)So? THEY KEEP DOING IT!
3)What can anybody do about it? NOTHING, really. Other then starting the WW3, which they wont. And? GOTO 1)

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You know Jason, as much as I hate to admit it, geo-politics( I studied it and majored in it at university to boot) is really a very dirty game and certainly far different from as it appears thru official channels. And judging from today’s developments (the US bombing in Syria), my deep-rooted logic-based suspicions would induce me to think that ALL the actors in this scenario are reading from the same script directed by a single entity in some secretive cabalistic lodge. Leaders say but then do nothing. They should realize instead that actions (my dear Putin, Rouhani, and Assad)… Read more »
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For those who believe that the US is really fighting terrorism (lol) why have they taken the least effective method of combating it (air strikes), and why is it coincidental that this method (air strikes) is just the thing they need to finally break the resistance of the Syrian state. If they really wanted to eradicate terrorism then the number one thing to do is to cut off its funding from the source-here they can order their puppets in the Gulf to take care of this aspect. Secondly they can prevent mercenaries from crossing into Syria, likewise their puppets in… Read more »
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Here is for the American Zombies.. tired of being told the truth of their Criminal Government sponsor of terrorism. Here listen American Proffessor Webster Tarpley and his evidence of MCAIN meeting with ISIS
leaders back in April in 2013 when he was in Syria.

http://tarpley.net/mccains-fraternization-with-isis-terrorists-breaks-into-mainstream-media-arrestmccain4isis-going-viral-on-internet/

please make viral. To effectively Fight ISIS ,can only be done by a revolution in USA ,removing from power
the real ISIS handlers who finance their war and give them weapons ..that works at the white house and US SEnate and congress.

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everyone like twitter account..

#ArrestMcCain4ISIS

all the evidence you need there of US government creation of ISIS .

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ArrestMcCain4ISIS?src=hash

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McCain is an insane old man who loves the war (as long it is not in his country).

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Middle East Updates / Dozens of Islamic State fighters killed by U.S. air strikes in Syria

U.S. informed Syria prior to conducting air strikes on Raqqa; Five Arab states participate in air strikes; Turkey indicates Islamic State prisoners swap.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/middle-east-updates/1.617308

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The real syrian government should ask Russia for solving the Terrorist problem in Syria. Every terrorist who die in Syria can´t cause trouble in other countries.
Thanks to the brave Syrian Army for fighting the jihadiescum for us!

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Sana has confirmed that the U.N envoy was notified, i’ll bet he was asked and not told, but i will also bet as per my previous post that Syria will shoot down any jet if any SAA died as a result of their bombing.Nothing from Russia yet but will have to wait for their news.

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Reuters is reporting Israel shoot down a Syrian Aircraft … over Golan Heights airspace with patriots defenses. Can’t wait for Ziad updates.. this is completely stupid flying over there knowing Israel have patriot missiles deployed in Golan heights… and by looking the photo it looks 2 pilots parachute .. meaning it had to be a very expensive Mig-29 plane.. This is total failure of Syrian Government and someone needs to be fired from his job. http://rt.com/news/189856-israel-plane-syria-shot/ I hope Ziad get real information of the latest incompetence of Syrian Air force. that should not happen. but also explain whats going on… Read more »
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It was a drone and not a jet and it is not know who’s it was, hezbollah have a few flying over Syria.

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Please be smart ! 2 pilots parachut ! so ? no its a jet, may be a SU 24 Fencer, a best of bomber ! very sad for SyAAF !!

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liberte: NPR News said it was a Mig21.

Roger
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Israel shoots down Syrian plane to help their organ-eating brethren in Syria.

Israeli occupation attacks and shoots down a Syrian warplane
http://www.sana.sy/en/?p=13884

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Not a drone, and if its true that 2 pilots parchut were seen over golan, its seem that its a SU 24 !!! what a mess ! its the best bomber jet int SyAAF crew !! ZAiad some news about this ???? Why no one word from Russia or Iran ???

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Liberte44 – Some ‘strong’ words from Russia [LOL]: “Russia ‘condemns’ U.S. airstrikes against Islamic State in Syria.” (yawn)
AND, from Iran: “Zarif, Hammond discuss Tehran-London ties.” (Zarif – “Airstrikes, what airstrikes?”)
No Russian comment yet on the shooting down of the plane, but I’m sure that Russia will get really, really mad this time … and may ‘strongly’ condemn it!
Sorry to be negative but I am only saying what’s real, while too many people are still dreaming of some great Syrian intervention by the Russian ‘Bear’ and the Iranian Snake. Dream on.

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Oz: I don’t think the Russians or the Persians are going to rescue anybody, either.

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