SYRIA: WHY THE UPCOMING TALKS WITH THE OPPOSITION MUST FAIL

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When one thinks of the Syrian exiled opposition certain words come to mind: clueless, rudderless, confused, misguided, ineffectual, parasitic, criminal, useless and soporific.  There may be a reason why the United States has ceded its role, if any, to the Russians given the track record of this cobbled melange of Muslim extremists, Old Guard Communists, fuedal landowners, pimps, defrocked doctors, practicing doctors, convicted felons and pedophiles.  At every turn, the opposition gave off a scent of success-in-the-making.  Once the aroma settled, the scent became one of sweaty underarms and camembert cheese.  The fact remains (and they should know it):  there is no coherent opposition.

In any negotiation, the sides size each other up.  In the case of the 28 or so opposition members invited by the Russians, not a one has any clout with the militias on the ground in Syria.  In fact, most of the militants have disavowed any connection to the group calling itself the National Coalition of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces (NACOSROF).  It should surprise nobody if one of these opposition members were to find himself in the clutches of Nusra or ISIS being paraded in an orange jump suit as a British-accented degenerate brandishes the blade he’s going to use to publicly behead him.  So much for clout.

With no influence of any kind to speak of and with all the hotel earmarks for their comfortable accommodations being whittled down by tiresome and bankrupt Arabian cretins,  it would seem axiomatic that the Russians would leave the whole show to a Kremlin apparatchik while they attended to more serious affairs in the Ukraine.  The entire episode appears designed for some other goal, however,; a goal related to appearances, and certainly not to substance.  It’s as though the Russian government needed to demonstrate superiority in how it deals with international crises.  It needed to show the United States that language going to the “pacific resolution of disputes” has a meaning.

From appearances and statements from the “exiled opposition”, the insistence on ousting Dr. Assad continues at the forefront of their negotiating strategy as espoused recently by Ahmad Mu’aadh Al-Khateeb (Al-Hasani).  That this grouping has made the success of the discussions conditional upon Dr. Assad’s removal, despite the successful and democratic July 2014 elections, casts a lugubrious shadow over whether the exiled opposition can sit at the same table with the legitimate government of the Syrian Arab Republic. These things are called “non-starters”.

To be sure, there are members of the exiled group who have conceded that Dr. Assad would remain in office until a transitional government is formed.  But, once again, we are at a logical chokepoint which begs a question: who in the Hell are you to talk about “transition”?  Will a transitional government impress the Jabhat Al-Nusra or ISIS fanatics?  This author is no betting man, but, it doesn’t take an expert to figure out that this terrorists’ war is not about transiting to an acceptable government or some utopian vision of Arabian democracy – especially with what we know about the so-called Arab Spring.  So, let’s tell the exiled opposition what the grand strategy was for this bloody and nihilistic war from the get-go:

1.  Destroy the Resistance Arc which extends from Iran to Syria to South Lebanon.  It could also be called the “Fatimid Crescent” although that expression introduces, unnecessarily, concepts of sectarianism. Whatever the case, it has everything to do with Iran’s ability to project power into the arena surrounding Southern Syria (historic Palestine).  It has everything to do with Syria’s massive ground-to-ground missile arsenal and manufacturing capabilities.  It has everything to do with Hizbollah’s ability to devastate the Zionist Settler State with over 100,000 missiles, mostly manufactured in Syria.

2.  Scupper the plan to extend a natural gas pipeline across Iraq, from Iran, all the way to Syria for sale to Europe.  This is Qatar’s nightmare – a pipeline which would render Doha’s huge subterranean reservoirs of natural gas as irrelevant as its population.  The cost to Qatar across vast swaths of time would be in the trillions of dollars.  This is why Qatar supports terrorism in Syria and Iraq and cannot stop doing so.

3.  Delay, at all costs, the development of the vast reservoirs of natural gas off the coasts of Cyprus, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine/Gaza.  This is Turkey’s nightmare.  The Turks who are hungry for fuel to nourish their growing economy want to break free of Russia’s and Iran’s stranglehold on the pipelines to Ankara.  It is through their illegal enclave on Cyprus that they want to stake a claim to the gas.  Evidence of this is more than obvious.  Every time Cyprus has begun exploring for gas, just like Lebanon, the Turkish navy begins to emit ripples of disdain.  This is why the Russian warships are aflloat and harbored in the Eastern Mediterranean.  And this is why Russia will never give up its base at Tartous, Syria.  The Russians want to have technological control over these resources since they do affect availability and the price of gas as sold by Gazprom to the EU.  With Russia constantly plying Cyprus with cash (virtually owning the island), and Russia arming Syria in its war against NATO-sponsored terrorism while strengthening Dr. Assad’s  hand in Lebanon, the Muscovite interest in the natural fuels becomes somewhat transparent.

Note also the Zionist Ghetto State’s refusal to permit the new Palestinian entity from exploiting its own natural gas reservoirs off the coast of Gaza.

4.  The fourth element to all this is the U.S. insistence on winning against Russia.  If these nightmares become a reality, Europe is likely to become more dependent on the East at the expense of American power and hegemony.  The U.S. is fighting for its future around the globe and, it appears, Dr. Assad, a modest opthamologist, sits right in the center of the maelstrom which will bring down that future with all its bombastic accoutrements: the NATO alliance, hypocritical adherence to principles of democracy, the war against terrorism, equal rights and all the rest of the sleep-inducing pontifications of morally depraved Zionist “Christians” and plutocratic bankers.

5.  The Saudi Arabians know their time is up.  If only Dr. Assad stepped down and helped them to stanch the flow of power to the Shi’is of Lebanon – those same Shi’is who populate Hizbollah and who threaten the order of things.  The Saudis do not merely hate Shi’is – they are terrified of them.  They are terrified of Iran’s burgeoning technology which defied all the western efforts to abort it through sanctions.  Iran’s nuclear program, which the Saudi apes are convinced is intended to produce a bomb that will change the balance of power in the area for a very long string of eons to come, proceeds apace and unabated.  It is here where the Saudis give up their last breath.  It is here where their hatred of Dr. Assad’s stubborn loyalty to his country and office causes them to gnash their teeth while pouring their nation’s money into the coffers of cannibals and nihilists like ISIS and Nusra.

Ahmad Mu’aadh Al-Khateeb snarls at the camera, exuding the power and influence of a spent balloon

 

The exiled opposition comes to the table with this background in view.  They are promoting an agenda whose purpose is to redirect the course of Russian/Iranian power away from the one link in the Resistance Arc – Syria, which is the linchpin for all that we have just discussed.  As they come to the table, the factors which are of so much concern to the West make the members of this group seem like bacteria in a Petri dish.  Their “demands” are meaningless and without substance.  They are nobodies at best and traitors at worst.  In this regard, we have enunciated a plan for dealing with them:

SyrPer recommends the following concessions to the exiled opposition:

1.  A free 3-month extension on their Syrian passports giving them enough time to find adequate housing in some part of Western Australia or Chile;

2.  A handful of coupons for free meals at their local Kentucky Fried Chicken;

3.  A kick in the pants.

The indigenous and legal Syrian opposition should be granted the freedom they need to participate effectively in presidential elections after seven years.  This is as far as SyrPer would go. ZAF

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

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NEWS AND COMMENTARY:

NSNBC discusses the discussions by the flawed and flaky NACOSROF:

http://nsnbc.me/2015/01/03/syrian-national-coalition-convenes-istanbul-russian-egyptian-mediation/

Brabantian sends this absorbing article about Saudi failures from an Indian diplomat’s point of view:

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2015/01/02/iran-trumps-saudi-project-in-syria-iraq/


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Salute to Russia for trying to start negotiations in order to solve conflicts. The opposite old world power uses terrorism support for conflicts. Thus far. Talks are always good! Yes, there are those geostrategical backgrounds SyrPer mentioned but even an invitation for a talk helps to separate marionettes from people who want a solution. Help NATO and Co. to leave the disastrous battle field without loosing too much face. Al-Nusra and IS maniacs will continue fighting, that is correct. But if the US lifts its hand to vasalle dictators in Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and Saudi-occupied Arabia- those militias will dissolve… Read more »
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And not to forget that largest saudi oil fields are in areas inhabited by Shi’is.

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Ziad, thanks for the accurate assessment of the situation regarding the negotiations.
P.S. loved the “concessions” agreed, give them nothing.

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Well I don’t think the point of this talks is to calm down terrorists or talk to them. They ain’t going to lay down arms until they meet their 72 verginians. Have you seen any FSA website with… erm… for example a project of a new constitution, or a request of reforms, or a political declaration? No. The point is to gather opposition to the government (those naive dreamers who live in Europe, want Assad to step down and “bring european values”) make a deal with them, for example a few seats in parlament. This will help to totally marginalise… Read more »
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The US bankers who have hijacked the US Government and are responsible for this covert invasion of Syria need to pay for the destruction they have wrought. They need to use Putin’s tactic of buying gold and hit them in the soft petrodollar underbelly.

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David” The International Banksters specialize in either stealing, or using, other people’s money, notably the American taxpayer’s money. Don’t look for them to either cop to anything, or cough up a nickel to help cover the costs of the damage and deaths that they cause.

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Not hijacked, built up since a long time. Hijacked, my ass.

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Excellent analysis and I agree with most of it except for the concessions that should be given by the syrian gov. I believe that nominal concessions should be given by the gov. These concessions do not decrease the president’s power, or the role of the armed forces , but allow the incorporation of members of opposition in the gov. The goal of these concessions is to get a reaction from nusrats and IS against those opposition involved in the talks. The best result that the gov can achieve is when the fighting field is limited to two groups: SAA and… Read more »
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Nominal concessions- easy! Plenty! Most important- let NATO and Co. save their faces. Include diplomatic language that does not connect them to “terrorism” but to the good-doing, so that they can lie to their populations. Let THEM win- they saved millions of innocent children, blabla. And then- for the voters in the west- “democracy building measures”, elections in 3 years or so, with international observers. And then- background deals- let Qatar (which should be listed in the Dow Jones, as it is property of the US) build a pipeline through Syria for a certain monetary price, why not? Just not… Read more »
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Hannibal; In my opinion, the ‘concessions’ should be restricted to, ‘Would you rather be buried, or cremated?’

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What the Indian Diplomat politely ignores in his otherwise balanced view of the situation, is that ISIS is right now getting military hardware airdropped from US planes, that ISIS is controlled by US, Zion etc. that Sauid is just their money bags. Can’t figure out why the Ruskies proposed these talks with the devils. Maybe to prove that the devils are not worthy of any consideration at all. Unusual, one would think when the rebekls are getting whopped, with news today that ISIS want a few new Lebanese bases, as well as Qalamoon. (But that is because it not be… Read more »
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Thomas: If I was running these talks the conversation would be limited to, ‘Okay, rat – – you want the bullet in your left ear, or your right ear.? Fine – – adios, mutha.’

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A thought on your comment — perhaps these talks will be a lower-level version of Bandar The Ape’s collision with Putin the Terrible.
If the stooges’ demands and rants are sufficiently over-the-top, they will provide more fodder to make them look as ridiculous and criminal as they are.

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Indian parties slam Obama’s visit http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-01/04/c_133895632.htm NEW DELHI, Jan. 4 (Xinhua) — Six parties of India will organize demonstrations across the country on Jan. 24 ahead of U.S. President Barack Obama’s visit to the country. The campaign is to protest U.S. “interference” in India’s internal affairs, said local daily The Tribune on Sunday. The protest is also aimed protesting at what the parties called the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government’s pro-U.S. policies. In a joint statement released on Friday, the Communist Party of India, the Communist Party of India (Marxist) and four others said the Indian government’s invitation of… Read more »
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The US shrug off what Marxists say.

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Syrian troops kill 16 [scum terrorists] rebel fighters on two fronts http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2015-01/04/c_133895983.htm DAMASCUS, Jan. 4 (Xinhua) — The Syrian troops have killed about 16 [terrorists] militants and injured 17 others in separate ambushes in southern and northern Syria, the pan-Arab al-Mayadeen TV said on Sunday. The Syrian troops ambushed a group of [sub-animals] extremists in the vicinity of the airbase of Abu al-Duhur in the northwestern province of Idlib on Saturday, killing 10 of them, including two leaders. The Syrian army also targeted Saturday a meeting of leaders of the al-Qaida Nusra Front in the rugged al-Qalamoun region north of… Read more »
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Dear Ziad, again thanks for this blog I truly enjoy your posts and all the fine people that discuss the issues on different matters updated here. I agree with the majority of your assertions, It is true Iran’s motives first and foremost are their desire to keep pressure on who they believe to be their mortal enemy namely Israel. The Russian are motivated by their presence in the Mediterranean region, this to them is of existential importance. The point I am trying to make is that Syria can count on Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and Russian’s support for the foreseeable future.… Read more »
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I agree with all the points you mentioned regarding the 5 reasons (goals for starting this war) At the heart of all these reasons is changing Dr Assad behaviour (politicall alliances), and if that does not work then replacing president Assad by another president who is willing to cooperate with the plans of the west and its stooges. The attempts to change Syria started as soon as Pres. Bashar became president .The west led by france started a pseudohoneymoon with Syria to lure it away from. the resistence axis.When Assad did not play game, the pressure from the west, esp… Read more »
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What is all this talk about Iran needing to make its own capabilities; when Russia can simply decide to endow that capability to Tehran, when its own interests and survival are threatened enough.

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Anon: Iran, rightfully, pursues its own interests; if those interests coincide with the interests of other countries which are actively engaging ‘The Great Satan’, that’s fine but, if not, then Iran just moves forward on its own. Nothing wrong with that.

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After the ruthless attack of Israel on the poor besieged people of Gaza, the Israeli army asked for ammunition from US, because their reserves where running low. Iran just completed military maneuvers in the sea of Oman all the way down to Bab Al Mandab. They fired over 3000 missiles and millions of rounds of artillery and bullets. A western analyst in the pentagon commented that “to fire that many rounds of ammunition in war games is by it self an indication of military strength”. That’s why you don’t want to be “given” armaments.

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teevee: Who fired the first swarm of rockets? Did Hamas fire them into Israeli towns and farms, or did Israel just slaughtering Gazans just for grins and giggles? Personally, I think that Israel treats non-jews in general, and its non-Israeli neighbors in particular abominably, and its treatment of its own Arab and nomadic minorities is inexcusable, still, when somebody fires rockets up your nose, you do have a right to defend yourself, Israelis included. The thing I find particularly disturbing is that Israel has done nothing in years that would warrant the existence of the State of Israel, yet the… Read more »
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Oh I agree 100%. Israeli treatment of Palestinians is affront to humanity. I mean if the situation was reversed and the Jews were rounded up and kept in a concentration camp such as Gaza, they would build monuments all over Europe in their honor. My response was to Anons comment regarding why should Iran develop her own indigenous military capabilities vs. buying from other powers. And the right to defend your self is universal, another words the same right should be given to Palestinians. And one other thing, nobody just starts shooting rockets at someone else unless there is an… Read more »
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teevee: Hamas has been a bit murky as to an Israeli aggression against Gaza which would justify Hamas just opening fire like they did. Looking back, it seems like every time Gaza gets back on its feet, and begins to move forward, Hamas lets loose another shit storm which gets Gaza flattened, again. Hamas, unlike Hizbollah, has no concept of being a defense force, just mad dog killers. Eff ’em.

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Ziad, excellent piece again, thank you so much for your wisdom. Though I value diplomacy and peace talks, I feel, particuarly related to the Syrian conflict, that is hard to find a middle term, any exiled opposition member has one thing in mind, the ouster of the legit Syrian Government and power for them, right there is a no-no game for me. I know Russia is doing a great deal of effort to bring different parties together and trying to get this bloody conflict to a stop, but again who will stop peacefully Nusrats or ISIS from continue their attempt… Read more »
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Canthama: There has never been anything won on the battlefield that the pin-stripe suit weenies are not willing to beg the enemy to take back without a shot being fired. Shoot the suits, and turn loose the line dogs. Last man standing wins.

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The newly liberated territories in Zamalke. part 4

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Has zamalka been liberated then.?

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Time is in the side of the Syrians. It is not on the side of the rats. What Syria should do is fight and negotiate at the same time. Negotiation is all very well as long as nothing essential is given away. Talk is cheap and can be quite revealing and might lead to unpredictable avenues of advancement. There is no compulsion to reach a conclusion soon or necessarily at all. Remember,all the while the SAA is grinding away at rat power and diminishing it. It is the rat leaders who need to come up with concrete results to display… Read more »
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Johnny, your words carry a lot of wisdom.

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Johnny I like what you say about fighting all the way thru negotiating table, but time is not on our side. Because we are winning. we must rebuild every smashed building, resurface every road etc. The terrorists know there is no role for them in Syria’s future. so don’t care about the destruction, as long as they get their oily pay check at the end of the week.

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teevee: The various Syrian ministries are seeing to the rehabilitation and of commerce in areas where the SAA and its partners have cleansed the area, including parts of Aleppo. For the ministries to just sit about, twiddlng their thumbs until war is over would impart a sense of futility to the folks who have lost everything because they stayed and made it through. With the re-establishment of industry and commerce, jobs are brought back to the area, allowing folks to earn wages and buy stuff, particularly food and clothing. I think that Syrian government’s prompt attention to rebuilding and recovery… Read more »
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“What Syria should do is fight and negotiate at the same time.”

That is exactly what the Vietnamese did. They won.

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in the end it will IMO boil down to the Syrian Government v ISIS I cannot see ISIS tolerating any other Jihadist group/s or reconciling with them, they are far to paranoid to allow it to happen, and they have already shown time and again that you are either 1 of them or die. So for the Qatari supported Nusra and the god knows how many other groups the future looks bleak. Once Aleppo and Damascus are freed up i can only see ISIS to deal with

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‘Most [Loved] Hated Man on the Internet’ found in Fresno

http://abc30.com/news/most-hated-man-on-the-internet-found-in-fresno/459968/

Johnson has a long list of successes — including revealing the bogus credentials of supposed Syrian expert Elizabeth O’Bagy.

“SHE MADE UP HAVING A PhD AND SHE WAS WORKING FOR THE SYRIAN REBELS AND HER WORK WAS BEING CITED BY BOTH PARTIES ON THE HOUSE FLOOR FOR WHY WE SHOULD GO TO WAR IN SYRIA,” Johnson said. “AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN SYRIA, BUT I KNOW WE SHOULD NOT HAVE FRAUDS BE THE ONES MAKING THE CASE.”

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Anon: There again, my conversation with Elizabeth would be limited to, ‘You want the bullet in your right ear, or your left ear? Fine – – adios, mutha.’

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I like your thinking Arklight, it’s the same as mine, kill em all, for if you let them live they will conspire against you, so remove that threat for good.

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Ziad, nice write-up – good analysis and overview. Keep ’em coming.

On a separate note –

I’ve heard of people facing off, but this is ridiculous. 🙂

http://trutube.tv/video/5482/FSA-Terrorist-Gets-Face-Blown-Off-By-Syrian-Arab-Army

Gotta love the musical accompaniment

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thats one of the worst things i have ever seen.

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ahh those vids,,made by a yt buddy of mine ,think it’s from ” nutsflipped” always loved the clint music he put in them lol

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I think this is a very solid analysis from Ziad. When we talk of the opposition we need to distinguish between three elements: 1) NACOSROF: They are completely irrelevant, represent nobody inside Syria and can deliver nothing other than their Istanbul hotel bills to be paid by someone else. 2) The armed opposition, over 90% dominated by Isis, Nusra and the Islamic Front. They oppose the very concept of democracy and negotiations so no progress can be made there. They simply have to be killed – all of them. 3) People and parties within Syria who disagree with the ruling… Read more »
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Shinaydeen, right on the money as usual.

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Except for a few complete nutters the Syrian jihadist groups are just mercenaries.
If Saudi/Qatar(US) stops financing them 95 % will stop fighting immediately if alternative criminal revenues are not available.

And the real opposition (studentic movements, communists etc.) are not relevant for NATO and allies at all.

So the real talk is between Damascus and the Syrian representatives of NATO and her allies.
What Ziad calls “fake opposition”, but they are the people to talk to.

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A Ziad´s good exercise of Realpolitik , almost any conversation no matter the partners who sit at the table, it is known that these conversations if come to fruition is because they decided behind the scenes, and this seems to be what will happen with the talks in Russia. The truth , as well as Ziad believe , I do not think there’s any significant result . While the Saudis , Turks and Zionists think they can win the war, peace will not happen , freshly will claim an agreement when clearly the SAA is in control of more than… Read more »
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Summing up somel what I read,
that’s it:
this peace talks are merely a show.
The polit-rats have nutting for this show
to show. Even less than a terror-rat,
being only a wheezing rat without teeth.

The other point is the russian legalistic
devotion, an honorable and traditional streak
with disastrous consequences so far alas,
as it was and is unfortunate just this nonsense
which allowed the oligarchic pest becoming epidemic.

Smoking calumet with anodont rats
is like Viagra sellers campaign in
an old age home, only empathic
embarrassment is coming out.

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There are some naive fools on here regarding the ‘Moscow talks’. The so called ‘opposition’ does not have any presence on the ground, therefore ‘dialogue’ with these opportunists and foreign agents will not change the situation on the ground one iota. The so called Moscow talks merely represent another attempt after the failed Geneva for foreign powers to buy a place in the corridors of power under the names of Haytham Manna, Khateeb, Kilo etc. This is nothing more than extortion with the full backing of the reprehensible Putin mafia regime. Ziad should stand up and expose Putin for providing… Read more »
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It depends on how to analyze the “rebels”.

If you think of them as “opposition”- you are right, they won’t be represented.
If you think of them as “mercenaries”- as I do- the foreign powers which finance them are decisive.

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Brilliant analysis, as we expect of Ziad the mentat. * * * * * Re, concessions to the exiled opposition: These clowns should beware re-settling in Western Australia, a place I myself was born in, and survived. Despite the outward friendliness aka gauche nature of the locals, it is also the respite for all kinds of criminal transportees, just as in its early days. I refer to the odious ‘Profits of War’ author, Ari ben Menache, who absconded from his Israeli Defence Ministry gig and tipped a bucket of Iran-Contra manure over the Zionists’ intrigues. He’s rumored to be lurking… Read more »
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Sun Tzu said: The art of War ch III. Attack by Stratagem 1. In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy’s country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them. http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html (A must read!) There can be no total victory, at some point there has to be a truce between the SAA and factions of the opposition who show interest… Read more »
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what a great article you made here ya Ziad,,I have been shouting how useless and powerless this oposition is ever since geneva 1,,they are nothing but little pawns on a chess board game that is much bigger than them and way in over there heads in the grander scheme as they are finding out just how little use they are to the americans being toppled and becoming ever more useless little pieces,,as the fake moderates are aslo becoming a rare comodity the yanks are also gonna soon be having a harder time peddling there bogus narratives,,they are still trying hard… Read more »
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btw your site has been really slow lately and not available,,i get a cloudflare message too like this
https://syrianperspective.com/2015/01/syria-why-the-upcoming-talks-with-the-opposition-must-fail.html

not sure if the problem is from your end or your supporter

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